Slowing things down had marginal effect. Okay sounds like I need to by pass
the optocouplers. Would you recommend I bypass all the encoder inputs as
well as the PWM output to the MC2100 controller?

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:34 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday 05 May 2020 18:30:42 Dan Henderson wrote:
>
> > Gene, how do I speed up the servo loop to test your theory? I’ll try
> > that before I perform surgery on the BOB. I also have another BOB I
> > can try, but it requires 12-24v power in order to enable its inputs.
> >
> I meant slow the motor to see if it stabilizes, at say 75 rpm.   zero
> everthing at the pid except some FF0.
>
> Bobs nearly all have opto inputs, the only exception I know of is a long
> discontinued cncv4pc C1G rev 4 board. Great board, but $80someting back
> in the day. Many even have opto outputs.  Mesa cards generally have
> neither so they can work at 100x higher frequencies.  The SainSmart bob
> has no opto's in its outputs, but does have them in its 5 inputs.  When
> its being used with a Mesa 5i25, its totally comfortable with 200+
> kilohertz signals from a high res encoder, once those opto's are
> bypassed.  Without the bypass it only worked up to about 375 rpm at the
> motor, then the opto's failed and the pid and motor went wide open.
>
> > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:07 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 05 May 2020 17:48:01 Dan Henderson wrote:
> > > > I have a PMDC motor I’ve scavenged along with the MC-2100 motor
> > > > control from a treadmill rated for 1.5 hp @ 90 volts. I’ve been
> > > > testing it with LinuxCNC v2.7.15 in a mock-up environment I built
> > > > for testing. I’m able to control the spindle speed via PWM pulses
> > > > to the controller (HD2 pin 4). M3 S500 will get me somewhere
> > > > between 520 and 580 rpm. You can hear the motor whine fluctuating
> > > > with the RPM. I’ve also installed a CUI ATM 10 encoder on the back
> > > > and seem to have it working with both an index and phase A signal.
> > > > I have the jumpers on it set to 200 PPR but it can go all the way
> > > > to 2048. I’m using a cheap china 5 axis BOB connected via parallel
> > > > cable.
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody have any idea why I’m get so much flux on the rpm?
> > > > Surely this isn’t normal? I know enough about the HAL to be
> > > > dangerous. Is there some things I can check to smooth this out?
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > If using a software encoder, as opposed to a mesa card, the time
> > > delay between samples at the 1 kilohertz servo loop can do odd
> > > things.  Among others, the lag in the input opto-isolators of that
> > > bob can even cause missed pulses from the encoder to the software.
> > > Try a much lower speed to see if it stabilizes.  If handy with a
> > > soldering iron, bypassing those opto's can help, a lot.
> > >
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