Thanks for the replies.

I adjusted the current, initially by measuring the reference voltage to get
(from memory) 150mA.  That ended up warming the motor too much, so I reduced
it some more.  Regardless of the current, the behaviour didn't change.

I do have some TMC stepper drivers around, I should see if that works.

I will end up replacing them with a geared version - same motor, but with a
small gear box, so full/half stepping might not be an issue.

Frank


-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Heskett [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, 19 March 2021 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT: Driving tiny steppers

On Thursday 18 March 2021 18:29:50 andy pugh wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 20:52, Frank Tkalcevic
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Is there anything special about driving these motors?
>
> I guess that as they are 20-step motors it is a long way between the
> poles, and microstepping relies on finding an elastic equilibrium
> between poles.

A lot of that can be blamed on the poor co-operation between the motor 
makers and the driver makers resulting in very poor mapping of the 
currents delivered, to the magnetic characteristics of the motor, and I 
have noted that the fine microstepping performance can and usually is, 
related to the ideal current ratios for the individual motor, due to the 
non-linear magnetic performance of the iron with improved performance in 
terms of degrees/step often obtained at less than full motor currants.  
But for a 20 step motor, if I needed fine results I'd gear it down to 
get the accuracy needed and drive the motor at no more than half step.

What I have observed is that you can get decent results from a 2M542 
driver at a little over half the max current, at a /8 or even /16. Swap 
that driver for a DM860 and its so much poorer, that there is no optimum 
current, even at a /32, its essentially a half step motor in terms of 
how far it moves for one step. And it hammers a nema34 something awful 
even running at a /16.

I know little about the A-4988, but its predecessor, A3977 used on the 3 
& 4 axis boards from another board maker isn't that good either.

YMMV of coarse, a lot at times.

> I think that it is often like you describe, just rather less obvious
> on a 200-step motor.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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