On 6/29/21 2:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 13:42 -0600, R C wrote:
On 6/29/21 11:09 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
The whole purpose of a CoC is telling people how to behave with
respect
to each other. Basically you are free to think as you will provided
that you act as the CoC says.

Regards

and that is why it is inappropriate, and useless, there is no way
you
can predict how/what  offends people (and nowadays. Creating rules
for
what/how/when and to whom what can be said, well, there are
countries
where you can happily follow those rules.

This is what I think:

The point of a CoC is to tell people that the expected behavior is to
act kindly with respect to each other, and the CoC must foresee and
provide means to resolve any controvercies that may arise, and do this
kindly as much as possible in order to reestablish the community
aggregation and mutual respect.

right, most normal/decent people know that is expected behavior, so it is pointless to re-iterate, and mosyly turns into something manipulative.


I don't understand why there is so much friction on adopting a CoC, the
vast majority of open source projects around the world has a CoC which
is created, reviewed and accepted by community members.

Because it is pointless.  There still has not been given an urgent reason for doing this kinda left-ish thing.


I make a point of that all the time, also at work, where they have several of these things.


Reason?  Oh an upper management person  once said it was needed "because everyone deserves to be respected, and by the end of the day can go home being happy they accomplished something"

I questioned him "Why?"  ..  except for a lot of "uh"-s no real answer.  Of course not,  because there are no reasons to do that..  it's management porn.



The only point I can make is that we need a community revision and
voting of the CoC.

why?  seriously, make a pressing point of  why.



Regards

Ron




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