On 6/29/21 2:53 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 14:32 -0600, R C wrote:
On 6/29/21 2:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 13:42 -0600, R C wrote:
On 6/29/21 11:09 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
The whole purpose of a CoC is telling people how to behave with
respect
to each other. Basically you are free to think as you will
provided
that you act as the CoC says.
Regards
and that is why it is inappropriate, and useless, there is no way
you
can predict how/what offends people (and nowadays. Creating
rules
for
what/how/when and to whom what can be said, well, there are
countries
where you can happily follow those rules.
This is what I think:
The point of a CoC is to tell people that the expected behavior is
to
act kindly with respect to each other, and the CoC must foresee and
provide means to resolve any controvercies that may arise, and do
this
kindly as much as possible in order to reestablish the community
aggregation and mutual respect.
right, most normal/decent people know that is expected behavior, so
it
is pointless to re-iterate, and mosyly turns into something
manipulative.
I don't understand why there is so much friction on adopting a CoC,
the
vast majority of open source projects around the world has a CoC
which
is created, reviewed and accepted by community members.
Because it is pointless. There still has not been given an urgent
reason for doing this kinda left-ish thing.
I make a point of that all the time, also at work, where they have
several of these things.
Reason? Oh an upper management person once said it was needed
"because
everyone deserves to be respected, and by the end of the day can go
home
being happy they accomplished something"
I questioned him "Why?" .. except for a lot of "uh"-s no real
answer.
Of course not, because there are no reasons to do that.. it's
management porn.
The only point I can make is that we need a community revision and
voting of the CoC.
why? seriously, make a pressing point of why.
Regards
Ron
I cannot comment on what you do at work. However this is how things
work in a human society, we need to state very clearly what are the
leadership actions to do in case controvercies need to be resolved, and
state what is expected behavior and unacceptable behavior from
community members, so that everybody knows that staying in the
community involves some kind of mental and behavioral engagement. This
is necessary to avoid irrimediable conflicts that can lead to
destruction of the community.
I'm happy to see that LinuxCNC community has survived so long without a
CoC. That said every community needs a CoC mostly as an assurance to
external people that they can join the community without fear.
You still didn't say why, except for a bunch of blabla leadership,
sounds like it has nothing to do with neither linux, nor CNC.
again, eccept for an evasive and dumb answer, there is still no why...
let me guess, you don't really have one other then a controlling vague one.
Regards
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