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On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 3:10 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:

> So nothing as complicated as:
> https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1687814019850656
>
> I did detailed measurements on the cup version I printed and there are two
> issues.  The worst is the shrinkage of the plastic results in the bearing
> holder being 1mm too small in diameter compared to the drawing.  Outside of
> Bearing to Bearing should be 84mm and is 83mm.   That leads to the teeth
> not entering the spline gear as deep as they should.
>
> There's also shrinkage across each tooth from the 3D print process so that
> even as they mate they bottom out before the sides contact.  And based on
> other reports of 3D printed harmonic gears the thickness behind the teeth
> should be 1mm rather than 1.5mm which ends up being too stiff.
>
> Then end result is this version has backlash but it turns quite nicely.
> The max I can get with this small Size 23 old surplus stepper is 8 seconds
> in one revolution with the 35:1 reduction at 1600 micro-steps/rev.  I also
> can't grab the hub and stop it.
>
> Finally, the spline gear and support body must be a lot thicker as it
> moves under load which shows up in the original authors video too.
>
> I'll put together a folder with the photos.
>
> John
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: November-30-21 12:46 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive
> >
> > I will post them later tonight..  To be honest - I took a video of the
> one
> > of the drive mfg and kinda measured the tooth angle.  (mine are just
> > triangles..)
> >
> > sam
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:30 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sam,
> > > Could you share the STEP file for the flex gear?  I want to look at the
> > > tooth shape.
> > > Thanks
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: November-27-21 8:18 PM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive
> > > >
> > > > I found that a while ago - That was what I initially started to
> build.
> > > >  But the cup seems to not handle flexing.  Atleast pla (I never
> tried it
> > > > with petg).  When Andy mentioned the style with no cup - I went that
> > > > direction.  I first made the flex gear out of pla - but it fatigued
> after
> > > > about 6 hours of running full speed (of the stepper).   Which might
> be
> > > just
> > > > fine for a hobby 4th axis.  Your not running the rotary axis at 100%
> feed
> > > > all the time.     I bought a role of petg and printed a flex gear
> with
> > > it.
> > > >  As much as I have run this setup (petg flex gear and pla splines) -
> I
> > > have
> > > > not had the petg flex gear fail - even after torque testing it.
> > > (although
> > > > I have not taken it apart) but it still runs and doesn't randomly
> stall.
> > > >
> > > > sam
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:05 PM John Dammeyer <
> jo...@autoartisans.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > For those who have 3D printed the gear portions of the harmonic
> drive
> > > what
> > > > > plastic did you find worked the best?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > > > Sent: November-26-21 11:18 PM
> > > > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > > > Subject: [Emc-users] Harmonic Drive
> > > > > >
> > > > > > List has been quiet lately on the harmonic drive subject.  I
> > > stumbled on
> > > > > this site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://howtomechatronics.com/how-it-works/what-is-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive-a-perfect-gear-set-for-robotics-
> > > > > > applications
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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