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Shu Lea,
thanks tor the link to http://compostingthenet.net
<http://compostingthenet.net/> which i was just playing with for a
bit. I had once tried to get a more prosaic set of tools developed
for working with nettime.org <http://nettime.org> as a collaboration
with Warren Sack. (We picked that one as its archive is public and
has been for years). Nobody would fund it so that didn't happen. I
don't know how much one would need tools for doing digital humanities
style work on listserv culture, or if one just needs to think about
it and do it the old human humanities way.
Its remarkable how the networks of the nineties get left out of
various histories, from art history to media history. I was at a
rather good event on cybernetics organized by millennial artists,
librarians, coders. Of the three hundred people there, nobody knew
what nettime was, or any of the other similar networks i polled the
audience about. They had only heard of rhizome because its now a
program at New Museum. I see a lot of people re-inventing the wheel.
I had to sit through a panel discussion recently at which one
panelist declared that "there is no critical writing about tech."
So the question then becomes one of the temporal aspect of networks,
how they might pass themselves along through time without losing too
much of their form. One can see what's going to happen if one reads
the books on the Situationist International, which is all things to
all people, but is never a network in the literature, let alone a
series of conflicts and mediations about what a network is or could
be. I tried to remedy that a bit in The Beach Beneath the Street, but
there's a lot to be done to create a network approach to the history
of networks.
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Shu Lea Cheang <shu...@earthlink.net
<mailto:shu...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
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hi, warkk
I think we should bring in Rachel Baker to help us digging into
the Situationists!! and we can start listing some keywords:
distributed, autonomous.... (with all empyrians' help!)
so, indeed about the threads...just as we witnessed here last 3
weeks, the multiple threads, the threads that got picked up or
sunk into oblivion......
and about listserve culture...you should really work on the book.
I am very interested in it.
i have this web work, composting the net (2013).
real time accessing listserve, retrieve the postings randomly,
scramble the words, make compost out of it for the fresh sprouts
to grow..
http://compostingthenet.net
use menu pull down to take a listserve, when one start composting
process, press mouse to stop the tumbling and read.
the composted ones - nettime, spectre, empyre, idc, aha, (skor is
out, and it seems rohpost also not available any more)
Annet Decker once commissioned me to compost SKOR of NL, which
gave me the archive access . unfortunately SKOR got shut down and
the site is no longer available. this was casualty of NL's last
media art budget cut...
over
sl
On 23/06/18 17:01, warkk wrote:
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Thanks Shu Lea,
i was at a thesis defense just yesterday and i was thinking
about this. The defender's name is Pehr Englen, and i expect
he'll write about this soon. The topic was the Situationist
International considered as a network, and as an argument between
different forms of network. Which got me thinking about
Jacqueline de Jonge's journal, The Situationist Times, which one
can read as a publication for artists and (partly) by artists
that was a resource-book for thinking and acting in networks. It
was multi-lingual, but had more of a visual than a written
language. There were issues devoted to specific topologies, such
as rings or spirals. I think this side of the Situationist
International that ended up in The Situationist Times was very
interested in what distributed networks of autonomous groupings
would be like as a form of artistic communication. One has to
wrest it out of the hands of art history, which is more
interested in either individual artists or movements that have
names and leaders. This was an avant-garde that had neither of
those qualities.
This connected for me to a project i have never quite managed to
get done, which would be a more personal account of the listserv
culture of the nineties. I was on nettime more than empyre but i
see them as part of a network of networks that includes
undercurrents, spectre, rhizome and several others. How do you
write about something in the form of linear prose that didn't
have that form at all? It is hard enough with just two
correspondents. When i was editing my correspondence with Kathy
Acker this drove me crazy. In actuality there were always several
threads going and we answered each other on those threads. But in
book form all that has to collapse into one sequence. I printed
the whole thing out and moved the documents around on the floor.
The order ended up being a compromise. Imagine doing that for
dozens of threads among hundreds of parties.... Not that i would
want to actually transform those listserv debates literally into
print form, but even just notionally to transform the dynamics of
those networks into one prose narrative seems to defeat the form
of the thing itself.
So that might be a place to start thinking about speculative
*and* tangible networks, or ones that are both at once.
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:25 AM, Shu Lea Cheang
<shu...@earthlink.net <mailto:shu...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Dear all
thanks to Fran llich's latest posting (as promised) which
coming at the tail end of week3 serves well to lead us into
week 4. I believe there would be some follow up for Fran's
tremendous endeavours, Fran, please stay with us for this week 4.
This week we focus on proposals for speculative, tangible
networks - the unrealized, to be realized, the anticipated,
to be anticipated, the trashed and the in progress, deep
sleep conjuration, deep water dive in, deep root
expounding.... we open up this week to welcome all your
proposal contributions.
I am honored to welcome the following three heavy-weight
thinkers, writers, hackers, weavers+++ whose work i admired
much to join us this week.
Francesca da Rimini (Adelaide, Australia) is an artist,
writer, filmmaker and researcher.She was awarded an Australia
Council New Media Fellowship in 1999, and her work has been
widely published and exhibited. She is a founding member of
the cyberfeminist art collective VNS Matrix, intercontinental
group identity_runners (with Diane Ludin and Agnese Trocchi,
and In Her Interior (with Virginia Barratt). Recent
collaborations include performance/installation /lips
becoming beaks, hexing the alien/ and /The Darkening/. She
periodically adds to her labyrinth at LambdaMOO to continue
hexing capitalism from within the beast.
Denis Roio aka Jaromil (Amsterdam, NL) is a purpose driven
software artisan and well known ethical hacker.CTO and
co-founder of the Dyne.org think &do tank, a non-profit
foundation with more than 15 years of expertise in social and
technical innovation. Leading digital culture institution
popular among digital natives and millenials. Jaromil shares
understandable insights and visions on Internet of Things,
Blockchain Technologies, Cyber Security, Data Ownership and
Software Freedom. Expert speaker about Open Source, Lean and
Agile methodologies
McKenzie Wark from New Castle, Australia, currentl living and
working in New York City. known for his writings on media
theory <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_studies>,
critical theory
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory>, new media
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_media>, and the
Situationist International
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International>.
His best known works are /A Hacker Manifesto
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hacker_Manifesto>/ and
/Gamer Theory
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gamer_Theory&action=edit&redlink=1>/.
He is Professor of Media and Cultural Studies at The New
School <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_School> in New
York City. To cite a few of his books -
·/The Beach Beneath the Street: The Everyday Life and
Glorious Times of the Situationist International/ (Verso, 2011)
·/Telesthesia: Communication, Culture and Class/ (Polity, 2012)
·/Excommunication: Three Inquiries in Media and Mediation/
(with Alexander R. Galloway and Eugene Thacker) (University
of Chicago Press, 2013)
·/The Spectacle of Disintegration/ (Verso, 2013)
·/Molecular Red: Theory for the Anthropocene/ (Verso, 2015)
·/General Intellects: Twenty-One Thinkers for the
Twenty-First Century/ (Verso, 2017)
On a sunny day in June.. let the words begin....
over
sl
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