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On Jun 20, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Seth Kim-Cohen <s...@kim-cohen.com> wrote:

> Why can't we accept our anthropomorphized and anthropomorphizing position 
> without succumbing or surrendering to an anthropocentric privileging of the 
> human (all too human)? 

I agree with the pickle most definitively, and to try to come out of it by 
pretending there is a equivalence and egalite because Nietzsche and Deleuze 
says so, kind of does not work for me. I have yet to see a monkey who is 
responsible for global warming for example, so there definitively is something 
terribly human about the current state of the world: human and non-human all 
together, up shit creek and no paddle in sight, but maybe we can hear one that 
we never dreamt of seeing.

I am not so worried that we anthropomorphize in perception. I think as you say, 
Seth, what else can we do,  we are human, it is rather how, with what awareness 
and ethical responsibility, we do the morphising that is important to me. Since 
the  "what else" is more worrying as the options seem to focus on erasing the 
human (and with it his responsibility) by apparently "becoming" nature, 
non-human or whatever it is we want to be equivalent with without truly 
considering the power position we have leveraged ourselves into in philosophy, 
in art and in fact.

There is a feminist argument here too in that I do not want man to become 
woman, I want woman to have her own voice not re-utter Nietzsche et all, to fit 
in at the margins.

I think it is a bit late for pretending there is no bias to our carving 
visually or sonically!

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