Everything still working, so no worries :)

BUT: maybe interesting info for you, I tried removing the --em-config 
argument somewhat expecting that everything still works, but got compile 
errors like this:

opt: Unknown command line argument '-lower-non-em-intrinsics'.  Try: 
'/Users/floh/projects/emsdk/clang/fastcomp/build_incoming_64/bin/opt -help'
opt: Did you mean '-lower-guard-intrinsic'?
ERROR:root:Failed to run llvm optimizations:

I guess it doesn't find the .emscripten file without the --em-config (which 
may be in a non-standard location in my case, it's in the toplevel 
"emsdk-portable" directory where my "workspace SDK" is installed), and 
probably calls some system LLVM tools instead of from the fastcomp location.

One thing is a bit strange though, as I wrote before, I don't have the 
EM_CONFIG env variable set anywhere. But the .emscripten file is a python 
script and runs this:

emsdk_path=os.path.dirname(os.environ.get('EM_CONFIG')).replace('\\', '/')

But without an EM_CONFIG this should fail hard, because os.path.dirname() 
is called with None... so the only way this would work is if the 
--em-config emcc arg sets the EM_CONFIG environment variable from within 
python (and after rummaging around in "tools/shared.py" this is indeed the 
case, so riddle solved).

So all good :)
-Floh.

On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:51:07 UTC+2, Sam Clegg wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:51 AM Floh <flo...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > > However, i don't think you can change the emscripten SDK dir by using 
>  --em-config (can you?). 
> > 
> > It does seem to work when using both --em-config and --cache both for 
> emcc and emar. This is what I'm doing to use a "local" workspace emscripten 
> install for cmake (all emscripten tools will also be called with their full 
> path, not relying on the global PATH): 
> > 
> > 
> https://github.com/floooh/fips/blob/055b454fa0f55468d3342d6ffbba6e798267ce59/cmake-toolchains/emscripten.toolchain.cmake#L162-L180
>  
> > 
> > I'm doing this for a long time now, but IFIR just calling the emscripten 
> tools with a full path wasn't enough to separate different SDKs from each 
> other. 
> > 
> > It definitely works to keep this 'workspace' emscripten separate from a 
> globally installed emscripten SDK (which is used when simply calling "emcc" 
> from the command line). I haven't tested for a while to have separate 
> workspaces with separate emscripten SDK versions though. 
>
> IIUC my change should effect your setup, but perhaps I'm 
> misunderstanding.   I've not changed the way `--em-config` or 
> `--cache` work.   IIUC emscripten has never had a way to change the 
> emscripten directory once one of the tools is run.   e.g. if you run 
> `/full/path/to/emcc` the emscripten used will always be 
> `/full/path/to`, the config cannot effect that directory.    My 
> intention with this change is to make this even more explicit. 
>
> Another way of putting it: Previously you could run 
> `/path/to/version_one/emcc` with an emconfig file that contained 
> `EMSCRIPTEN_ROOT=/path/to/version_two` but in this case 
> `/path/to/version_two` would never actually be used. 
>
> Could you test your setup with HEAD and let me know if I broke 
> anything for you? 
>
> > -Floh. 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:41:05 UTC+2, Sam Clegg wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:56 PM Floh <flo...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > Does this fix change the behaviour of the the "--em-config" and 
> "--cache" cmdline args of emcc and emar to point to a local emscripten SDK 
> install? 
> >> > 
> >> > For me it's important that I don't have that "one and only" central 
> emscripten SDK, but separate versions per "workspace", and I'm using the 
> "--em-config" and "--cache" to isolate those different SDKs (I'm not 
> setting any environment variables like EM_CONFIG or EMSCRIPTEN_ROOT either 
> btw). 
> >> > 
> >> > As long as the cmdline args continue working, I guess I'm fine with 
> the change. 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> I don't think this change will effect those command line flags. 
> >> 
> >> However, i don't think you can change the emscripten SDK dir by using 
> >> --em-config (can you?).   If you run emcc or emar the emscripten SDK 
> >> you get is based on where those commands are found (i.e. `which 
> >> emcc`).    This change is ephasising that fact.  The em-config can 
> >> control other things such as the LLVM location and the binaryen 
> >> location, but my understanding is that its argv0 that is used to find 
> >> emscripten.  If you want t to switch your emscripten directory you 
> >> would need to update your PATH or use a fully qualified path to emcc. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Cheers! 
> >> > -Floh. 
> >> > 
> >> > On Wednesday, 10 October 2018 02:41:26 UTC+2, Sam Clegg wrote: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> TLDR: There is a field in called EMSCRIPTEN_ROOT in the config file 
> >> >> which in theory can be used by external tools to find the "active" 
> >> >> emscripten.   I'm proposing to remove it. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> --- 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Maintaining this field has a cost and it can get out of sync with 
> the 
> >> >> emscripten you are actually using.    Imagine you run `emcc` and if 
> >> >> parses the config file and finds EMSCRIPTEN_ROOT pointing to 
> different 
> >> >> version of emscripten. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> The two current users of EMSCRIPTEN_ROOT that I know of are the 
> scons support: 
> >> >> 
> https://github.com/kripken/emscripten/blob/incoming/tools/scons/site_scons/site_tools/emscripten/emscripten.py
>  
> >> >> And ammo.js: 
> https://github.com/kripken/ammo.js/blob/master/make.py#L17 
> >> >> 
> >> >> In both of these cases a better solution would be either: 
> >> >> 1) looks for `emcc` in the $PATH 
> >> >> 2) check for EMSCRIPTEN_ROOT in the environment. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Parsing the config file is also a rather brittle solution, and 
> >> >> prevents us from iterating on the config file format and how its 
> >> >> parses.  It also uses python's `eval` which is nasty. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Any objections to following this path? 
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