Dear All,

I am by no means an expert in women and violence.  Nevertheless, a lot of
my studies have been about violence and women. I am a foreigner who lives
in India, and the attitude towards women in this country is particularly
sick.  Because I am a foreigner, men here perceive me as a "loose woman",
although the majority of the time I am in Indian clothing, or failing that
clothes which in a western society would not be deemed as
provocative.  Nevertheless, the men who are sometimes educated, and know of
the issues about violence against women, still they treat women, whether
Indian or foreign, with disdain.  The treatment of women and their attitude
thereof is demeaning and particularly worrying.  So the question is does
counselling for men work, isn't that rather too late?  Naturally,
counselling for men should be included, especially if they have been
abusive, then their problems and attitudes should be addressed.  But here
in Indian Society, it is instilled in the boy child to be naturally violent
towards the girl child, and they thus grow up thinking that it is normal to
hit girls and in some cases sexually abuse them.  Men here stare at women,
and they rape you with their eyes, should we not be concentrating also on
the children, instilling in them a different way of looking upon women.  If
they are old enough to think that it is alright to hit the girl child, then
they are also old enough to learn that it is not.

I have spent much of my time with slum children educating them about their
rights, they do learn, which is sometimes heartbreaking to see, as the
majority of these children are not achieving their most fundamental rights,
nevertheless they do know the difference between right and wrong, it is
just a matter of education and instilling in them that their natural
beliefs are the right ones. Teaching children about the rights and wrongs
is a start.  The second thing which should also be discussed is the fact
that both men and women alike tend to stigmatise women who have been raped,
and in many closed societies it is better for the abused woman to suffer in
silence, rather than telling her family or even husband that she has been
abused (in the case when it is not the husband abusing).  This is one of
the main reasons why rape as a weapon of war is so rampant, and indeed so
succesful in recent times, because it does hurt, maim and effect the whole
of society.  When are men going to realise, and some women too, that we are
the sole possessors of our bodies, and if a woman has the absolute
misfortune to be raped, she should most definitely not be frowned upon in
her own society and by her husband?  In many cases in Bosnia where the
women were raped, many husbands could not handle this, and as a direct
consequence of the rape they left their wives.

Something must be done about our attitude of sex and the way women are
perceived, and this I believe has to start from when we are children in all
societies.  It should be a bottom-up approach, and all aspects of the law
should also be questioned.  But first is the attitude of all society, and
only then can we win this war which seems never ending, and women can
finally be allowed to live their lives with dignity (which in essence has
been taken away from us from the way we are perceived, it is not that we,
as women, or abused women have lost it).

Miss Charlemagne Gomez
Commonwealth Advocacy Programme Officer
Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative
F1/12a Haus Khas Enclave
Ground Floor
New Delhi - 110016 - India
Tel: 00 91 11 686 4678
Fax: 00 91 11 686 4688
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www.humanrightsinitiative.org



On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Margaret Sargent wrote:
  >
  >I support what both Elaine Walters and Cheryl Soehl have written in
  >response to this post.
  >
  >We live in a society where violence against women is a substantial problem.
  >It can be viewed as a systemic problem in that it seems to be grounded in
  >the construction of masculinity. The persistence of the problem in spite of
  >the many programs focused on changing male behaviour tends to confirm this.
  >
  >We must ask what is the nature of the social change required for a
  >reduction in violence against women to occur? It cannot be solely a
  >psychological reconfiguration of gender relations between individuals -
  >although it must include this. It needs firstly to bring change in overall
  >'normal', everyday individual male-female relations and, secondly, group
  >relations among the majority of members of our society. Gender relations of
  >power have to provide, for:
  >
  >




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