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On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Matthew Woehlke <mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2015-09-20 12:58, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > A Privacy red-flag is a little harder to quantify.  About the only case
> > I can think of is if a message is encrypted, but with a key that has
> > been revoked or does not match the claimed sender.  But this should
> > probably be considered an Authenticity failure.
>
> No, actually you were right the first time. Authentication is based on
> the integrity of the SENDER'S private key. Encryption is based on the
> integrity of the RECEIVER'S private key(s). So, if I send a signed,
> encrypted message one or more recipients, one of whom has a compromised
> key, the message may well be authentic (which we can verify if the
> sender's key is trusted), but an attacker may be able to read it.
>
> I could certainly imagine this happening if someone sends you a message
> encrypted using an old public key of yours that you happen to know is
> compromised, because the sender is not aware that it is compromised /
> revoked.
>
> (In fact, privacy is the only state that can change after the fact. If I
> send you a message and it is authentic, that is a past event that cannot
> be changed. If an encryption key is compromised, a message that was
> previously private may no longer be private.)
>
> > Should a message that is encrypted but unsigned be considered an
> > Authenticity failure - or at least an authenticity warning?
>
> Encrypting a message and authenticity (signing) are orthogonal; ergo,
> whether or not a message is encrypted should not affect reporting of
> authenticity.
>
> --
> Matthew
>
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