On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:49:01 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> said:

> Wow, what happened in
> https://git.enlightenment.org/website/www.git/commit/?id=9f75e7370f168ada24267d6c065a9cbba92ee42f?
> We're all monochrome now :(

well i was doing the contrast thing. increasing it.

> a {
> - color: #44aaff;
> + color: #eeeeee;
> }
> 
> Pretty sure the comment about link colours was that clicked vs unclicked
> should be more differerent - no need to lose the nice blues completely.
> Looking at the site now it's lost most of it's character.
> 
> Also, since we have source control, why are we leaving old code commented
> out?
> 
> - text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5);
> + text-shadow: none;
> +// text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.5);

i like doing this for things i might undo later or refer to.
 
> Andy
> 
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 at 02:33 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:05 +0000 jaquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > said:
> >
> > > Hi guys this is something I can contribute to in terms of website. and I
> > > can even host it if you all so desire. Question is do you want this
> > > built off a framework, such as wordpress where it will be easy to
> > > include a forums section or something custom built?
> >
> > We don't need hosting. We have that. We have a framework: Dokuwiki. Our
> > content
> > depends on it and its markdown. It also has discussion forums too. They are
> > activated on several pages.
> >
> > This discussion is really about styling and maybe layout.
> >
> > > On 2017-11-16 22:26, Stephen Houston wrote:
> > > > +1 I've been saying we need a new website bad. And one that is sleek,
> > > > modern, and yes white.  Time to look up to date and kept with the
> > > > times.
> > > > You will notice nearly every major linux distribution and nearly all
> > > > major
> > > > linux software websites are in the confines of what you describe.
> > > > Simple,
> > > > flat, white background and black text, sharp but small images that are
> > > > mostly subtle, and responsive design to look good across devices. The
> > > > reason being that this is proven to be the easiest on the eyes and the
> > > > most
> > > > pleasing to the reader as you said.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 3:58 PM Cedric Bail <ced...@ddlm.me> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> As some of you may have noticed we are doing some improvement to our
> > > >> documentation and trying to get things easier when starting with EFL.
> > > >> One
> > > >> of the main issue we are facing is that our website is definitively
> > > >> hard to
> > > >> read for a lot of people. So Paul went on trying to figure out why.
> > > >>
> > > >> The first problem is actually the constrast ratio between background
> > > >> and
> > > >> text. According to W3C accessibility guidelines (
> > > >> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum )it should be 4.5:1 at
> > > >> least. Our colors are #818181 for the text and #303030 which give a
> > > >> contrast ratio of 3.39:1 (
> > > >> https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/
> > > >> ). And it is worth for people with vision impairment where it should
> > > >> be 7:1.
> > > >>
> > > >> Black on white or white on black would work, but according to some
> > > >> random
> > > >> person on Internet (could not find a scientific evidence/citation of
> > > >> it) a
> > > >> white background force your pupils to contracts, making it easier to
> > > >> focus
> > > >> your eye with a smaller pupil (much like the depth of field is
> > > >> increased
> > > >> with a smaller camera lens). This could be shown by a test carried on
> > > >> 136
> > > >> subject, where the people reading black text on a white background
> > > >> scored
> > > >> better than any other combination of colors (
> > > >> http://lite.mst.edu/media/research/ctel/documents/LITE-2003-04.pdf ).
> > > >>
> > > >> The second problem are our links that are difficult to tell wether
> > > >> they
> > > >> have been clicked on or not. Also they have a slight glow around the
> > > >> links
> > > >> that makes them harder to read. The best link on the subject we can
> > > >> point
> > > >> to would be
> > > >> https://www.nngroup.com/articles/guidelines-for-visualizing-links/ .
> > > >>
> > > >> So it would be best to come up with a more accessible design for our
> > > >> web
> > > >> site. If someone want to suggest a new design within those constraint,
> > > >> it
> > > >> would be great, but I would suggest to look at
> > > >> https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/ or at
> > > >> http://doc.qt.io/
> > > >> . They are simple and work well in term of readability. We could
> > > >> easily go
> > > >> with something like that. What do you think ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Cedric
> > > >>
> > > >>
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