On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:50 AM Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote: > > > On 09/05/18 11:04, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Wed, 02 May 2018 16:38:07 +0000 Stephen Houston < > smhousto...@gmail.com> said: > > > > Here's my take. it makes it or it doesn't. Releasing on time is all > about that. > > So sure, make a concerted effort, but don't delay if it doesn't make it. > We can > > "cut corners" like don't bother doing the colroclass recoloring > (requires code > > in elm to load/save/edit/configure color class config files, anmd then > choose > > the right one and apply it). can possibly cut corners on scalability > (though > > more important than color classes because colors is a preference, > scaling is > > nercessary, so it'd have to basically scale but we could skip making it > scale > > "beautifully")... i'm open for suggestions on how and what to cut to > make the > > timeline... > > > > I'd just like to say that timed releases is not about big milestones for > every > > release. It's about a steady flow of updates and improvements small or > large, > > rather than large gaps. So let's say we do have a "headline feature" this > > release, and maybe another the next release. We'll be stuck with none the > > release after etc. and so this will be common. Some releases will get big > > headline things, some may get multiple, some may get none and just small > > changes. It's life with timed releases. :) > > > > The problem with cutting back and taking shortcuts to make the timeline > is that inevitably after the release people will get busy on other > things and won't get around to going back and fixing all the things that > weren't done. So personally I'd go with no shortcuts and if its not done > its not done and can wait for the next release. > > Besides the idea that I'm still not sure about the whole idea of a new > theme landing for a efl release, for people using the default theme not > even upgrading e and getting a completely different theme seems slightly > weird, personally I think it would be better to coordinate it somehow > with the e23 release if timing ends up being near right. >
That's just how themes work. There have been fewer than 200 patches to Enlightenment since the previous release, and the majority of them have already shipped in stable releases. It's unlikely that there would be a need for an Enlightenment release in the near future unless it's solely for the purpose of bumping the version number. > > >> Raster this is more of a question for you. You know my thoughts on > theme > >> being a pressing issue. Is this something we as the community can band > >> together during stabilization and have flat ready to go for 1.21 or is > this > >> something that we will have to put off yet again for a later release? > >> > >> My thoughts are that introducing the flat theme could be the headlining > pop > >> that this 1.21 release needs... i.e. a selling point for the release to > be > >> more attractive to users other than just being mostly a big fix release > >> with just a preview of the interfaces work. So we could say the big > >> milestone for the 1.21 release is the new theme and the big milestone > for > >> 1.22 is interfaces rather than somewhat blandly saying this is a big fix > >> release with a tech preview of interfaces and then saying 1.22 has two > big > >> introductions the theme and interfaces. That would also help with > >> stabilization and release process for 1.22 as we wouldn't be having to > >> focus on two new large introductions- flat and interfaces in the same > >> release. > >> > >> Just my thoughts here, and obviously not something worth having a knock > >> down drag out debate over. > >> > >> Stephen > >> > >> On Wed, May 2, 2018, 11:27 AM 조재현 <jae_hyun_...@naver.com> wrote: > >> > >>> 5908 and D5988. (D6008 has been submitted already.) > >>> D5988 is for tab pager. > >>> > >>> Thank you > >>> > >>> > >>> 네이버 메일 앱에서 보냈습니다. > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> 보낸사람: "조재현" <jae_hyun_...@naver.com> > >>> 받는사람: "Enlightenment developer list" < > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>> 날짜: 2018.05.02 오후 08:05:04 > >>> 제목: Re: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase > >>> > >>> 1.21 freeze, there are two patches to be submitted as follows. > >>> > >>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/D5908 > >>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/D6008 > >>> > >>> D5908 is for slider widget and D6008 is for tab pager widget in efl ui > >>> interface. > >>> > >>> Those patches are necessary widgets for the new efl ui interface and > they > >>> are still being updated and also under reviewing. > >>> > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Jaehyun Cho. > >>> > >>> 네이버 메일 앱에서 보냈습니다. > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> 보낸사람: "Stefan Schmidt" <ste...@osg.samsung.com> > >>> 받는사람: "Enlightenment developer list" < > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>> 날짜: 2018.04.27 오후 08:38:01 > >>> 제목: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase > >>> > >>> Hello. > >>> > >>> > >>> Its been a while. About to get our act together and get everything in > >>> place so we can start the 1.21 stabilization phase. > >>> > >>> We had this brought up at the two IRC meetings we had and I wanted to > >>> reach out here as well to understand what pieces people here are > >>> working on that need finishing before we can go start stabilization. > >>> > >>> I know from Cedric that he still has two branches he wants to get > merged > >>> (a third one was going in already). Supposedly this should happen > >>> this week. > >>> > >>> > >>> What else is it that we are working on? If you have something, speak up > >>> NOW! > >>> > >>> > >>> I will look into the situation again on Wednesday next week. Hopefully > >>> will all items being in and come up with a potential schedule. > >>> > >>> Raster agreed to help around this time with some release duties which > is > >>> very much appreciated, especially as I will be away the whole June. > >>> > >>> > >>> From 1.22 I would suggest a round robin change of release manager > duties. > >>> This should a) help to reduce the pain doing it and b) spread the > >>> knowledge throughout the developer team. > >>> > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> Stefan Schmidt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > -- > > Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net > > Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek > SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
