I think we should make it a policy going forward that the stabilization
period cannot begin until all pending patch submissions have been reviewed.
There are still a ton of patches out there which haven't been looked at,
and "I didn't feel like reviewing patches" should never be a reason why
patches don't make it into a release.

This doesn't mean that all patches need to be merged, but patches submitted
during a release cycle should at least be reviewed during that cycle.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:32 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Beautiful.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Stefan Schmidt <
> ste...@datenfreihafen.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Another update on this.
> >
> > On 08.05.2018 21:41, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > On 04/27/2018 01:38 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > There sadly has not been as much progress as hoped for.
> > > I still wait for the following items:
> > >
> > > o Cedric's last branch to be merged (lifecycle?). What is the status
> > here? Maybe its to massive to get landed for 1.21? I have been told it
> > > would be merged like 10 days ago.
> >
> > This is the one getting me stomachache. It keeps postponing with new
> > problems being found. And surely there will be more problems showing up
> > when merged into master.
> >
> > Cedric, you think you can get this in until Tuesday? I wanted to start
> > the freeze end of next week, more below.
> >
> > > o https://phab.enlightenment.org/D5908 needs review
> >
> > Merged now.
> >
> > > o https://phab.enlightenment.org/D6046 needs review
> >
> > Still in progress. Raster, could you check if the added comment
> > addressed your concern?
> >
> > > o Comments on the flat theme from Raster
> >
> > We talked about it again and this will keep going in parallel with the
> > hopes to have it ready and merged into master before the release. I am
> > willing to have an exception here as the theme should be isolated enough
> > to not cause to much trouble when being merged late. We still should
> > make a call if we have it in or not two weeks before the release (beta2
> > time).
> >
> > > Once we have these sorted we can start with the stabilization phase.
> > > As we have no date for this yet I can only give a rough schedule to
> give
> > people an idea.
> > > This needs to be updated once we start with the alpha.
> >
> > Besides the lifecycle branch I think we are in shape now to start the
> > stabilization. Nothing else besides the ones above have been brought up.
> >
> > It seems time to get into the huge backlog of bugs to get them fixed. :-)
> >
> > The idea is now to have the freeze starting end of next week. The items
> > from above have been mentioned early enough that I might be ok to have
> > them slip in after the alpha, but don't count on it. Instead try to make
> > sure you get them in until Monday or Tuesday.
> >
> > Here is an updated schedule I put up for discussion. Speak up NOW if you
> > have problems with it.
> >
> > === Schedule ===
> > 2018-05-24 Merge window is over. (handled by Stefan)
> > * Only bug fixes from this point
> > * Alpha release tarball
> > * We really need to sort out if we have bigger issues lingering around
> > due to all the last minute rush
> > 2018-06-18 Beta1 release tarball (handled by Raster)
> > * Only critical fixes from this point
> > 2018-06-25 Beta2 release tarball (handled by Raster)
> > 2018-07-02 Beta3 release tarball (handled by Raster)
> > 2018-07-09 EFL 1.21 is out (handled by Stefan)
> >
> > This would basically bring it down to a 6 weeks stabilization window.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > regards
> > Stefan Schmidt
> >
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