A. We were assured the server could be provided free of charge.  I.E.
"Sponsored" not bought or paid for as you and raster seem to think
sponsored means.

B. If you would have spent the last month or so since that Gitlab thread
started actually testing or using the prototype set up, you would see that
gitlab provides a web interface for git, so no need for cgit.  Obviously
phab provides a wiki and gitlab provides a wiki so the move from phab to
gitlab would move phab's wiki to gitlab's wiki.  Again these are trivial
things that could have/should have been discussed for the many weeks that
has thread has been there.  CI was also mentioned.  It's a huge problem
with e5 and Stefan explained this.  Gitlab has some really good CI tools,
but obviously that is one of the biggest considerations in moving as Stefan
clearly laid out.  CI with E5 is crap.

I will add a temporary move option to the vote.

I didn't jump the gun here.  The Gitlab thread has been around for a long
time now with over 50 responses and is at the point where some kind of
decisions have to be made as it is going to go stale.  There is nothing
more frustrating than people who sit around and have AMPLE AMPLE time to
respond and put opinions out there and concerns and discuss things more,
and choose not to until the time comes to take the next step and they then
want to speak their mind.  Communication really is key.

Finally - This vote isn't going to set anything in stone or set anything in
motion.  After weeks and weeks of responses to the thread, the vote is
simply there to guage what everybody's end goal/desire is so that we can
have more focused discussions about A. Is it possible? B. How do we
accomplish it? C. Pros/Cons D. Community buy-in

Relax a little - Vote on the slowvote as to what your ideal situation would
be and then when the vote is over we will have a good feel of what the
community's ideal situation is and we will see if its possible to get close
to that/accomplish that.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:49 AM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de> wrote:

> There is a difference between a precise plan on what kind of changes are
> done and what the overall plan looks like.
>
> - What is happening to the CI, cgit, wiki etc.
> - Is the sponsoring a permanent choice, or just something for a year or
> so, and the overall plan is to migrate back, (this was also proposed in
> the "Gitlab" thread).
>
> Those questions are rather fundamental (at least to me) in order to vote
> for anything. Also, how useful is it to know that the community wants to
> have a sponsored service if there is no funding at all.
>
> On 9/26/18 4:22 PM, Stephen Houston wrote:
> > There is no point in developing a plan if we dont know what the plan is
> or
> > what the desire is of the community.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 9:21 AM Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't really see where this vote does make any sense.
> >> There is currently no one stepping up, saying he does the migration,
> >> there is no plan how the move should be done, there is no plan on where
> >> the funding would come from.
> >>
> >> How should i decide if a move would make sense or not in this stage? I
> >> don't even can see what kind of features would be included in case of a
> >> switch to gitlab.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> bu5hm4n
> >>
> >> On 9/26/18 3:52 PM, Stephen Houston wrote:
> >>> Hello developers,
> >>>
> >>> Please take the time to consider options and vote on a migration to
> >> Gitlab
> >>> and infrastructure possibilities here:
> >> https://phab.enlightenment.org/V39
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Stephen
> >>>
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