I will gladly sponsor a server to host on until we get e5 reinstalled and going 
again. 

I think here before a new server is mentioned, we need to see about decide 
about distribution as that will open up a whole new can of worms

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> On 26 Sep 2018, at 17:56, Stefan Schmidt <ste...@datenfreihafen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
>> On 9/26/18 5:30 PM, Stephen Houston wrote:
>> A. We were assured the server could be provided free of charge.  I.E.
>> "Sponsored" not bought or paid for as you and raster seem to think
>> sponsored means.
> 
> The server you mentioned here is the cloud hosting Mike offered? I read
> nothing besides that. No details on who is sponsoring, how long, on a
> monthly basis (could be canceled any time) or one big chunk to be
> managed by the EFL foundation, etc.
> 
> Relying on sponsorship for critical infrastructure is difficult for an
> open source project. Not impossible, but difficult. You basically base
> your trust on business decisions not changing in a company.
> 
> Without a clear pledge on the sponsorship level in terms of length and
> amount this option sounds really problematic to me.
> 
>> 
>> B. If you would have spent the last month or so since that Gitlab thread
>> started actually testing or using the prototype set up, you would see that
>> gitlab provides a web interface for git, so no need for cgit.  Obviously
>> phab provides a wiki and gitlab provides a wiki so the move from phab to
>> gitlab would move phab's wiki to gitlab's wiki. 
> 
> I spent time on the thread, looked at the prototype and raised
> questions. Not all have been answered nor have they all been fully
> dissected. Wiki is per project in Gitlab and not overall like Phab, we
> use cgit while phab also offers a git web interface, etc.
> 
> Blaming Marcel for not spending time on the thread is pretty harsh if
> many of these things have not been answered and are still in "to be
> found out" state.
> 
> Again these are trivial
>> things that could have/should have been discussed for the many weeks that
>> has thread has been there.  CI was also mentioned.  It's a huge problem
>> with e5 and Stefan explained this.  Gitlab has some really good CI tools,
>> but obviously that is one of the biggest considerations in moving as Stefan
>> clearly laid out.  CI with E5 is crap.
> 
> How would Gitlab help with the CI situation? I see no good integration
> with things like Travis for it (if I missed it I am happy to get pointed
> to it). It basically means we would move our CI over to Gitlab and all
> builds run on our infra (cloud/or hardware). That could easily bring
> back the overloading problems we had on e5. I am very hesitant in buying
> into using Gitlab for CI without enough knowledge about it.
> 
> regards
> Stefan Schmidt
> 
> 
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