@Jonathan regarding documentation, this is what we currently have:
https://www.enlightenment.org/docs/distros/start
With specific instructions for many distros on the right-hand navigation
bar.

However, they are outdated and do not include meson instructions.
I just created a Phab task so we do not forget about this:
https://phab.enlightenment.org/T7826

Xavi

On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 09:50, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 08:18:49 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach <m...@bu5hm4n.de>
> said:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > you can find our build definitions for osx in
> > https://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/tree/.ci/ci-configure.sh#n49
> >
> > Things do work on macos, you can rendering with cocoa, beside the normal
> > rendering bugs, things are normal there.
>
> gl as well as software?
>
> > Greetings,
> >    bu5hm4n
> >
> > On 4/25/19 7:20 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Regarding the state of things on OSX is the documentation updated to
> > > reflect the changes for meason as I am willing to test and report back
> to
> > > you guys with feed back.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > Sent: 24 April 2019 23:24
> > > To: Enlightenment developer list <
> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] EFL Autotools freeze proposal
> > >
> > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:27:26 +0200 Stefan Schmidt
> > > <ste...@datenfreihafen.org> said:
> > >
> > >> Hello.
> > >>
> > >> On 17.04.19 15:15, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:19:35 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz
> > >>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We are currently in the 1.23 release cycle, and it seems agreed
> > >>>> upon that we are planning to remove autotools prior to the 1.23
> > >>>> release. Overall, the meson build is in reasonable shape--there are
> > >>>> some small issues on our main platforms (and larger ones for
> > >>>> Windows)--and it should not be an issue to meet this goal.
> > >>>
> > >>> i thought meson was in better shape...
> > >>>
> > >>>> With this in mind, I would like to propose a freeze on the
> > >>>> autotools build starting Friday. This means that we no longer
> > >>>> modify the autotools build in any way in the master branch
> > >>>> (excepting outstanding patches in phab), and instead focus entirely
> on
> > >>>> ensuring the quality of the meson build system.
> > >>>
> > >>> i think we should push this off a few more weeks/month or 2.
> > >>
> > >> I would like to get reports on what is actually missing or
> problematic.
> > >> We can push back the freeze a bit, but its only a freeze, not the
> > >> autotools removal. And we need people to switch over to see if all
> the
> > >> crazy use cases we do not have are covered.
> > >
> > > the issue i saw got fixed by bu5hm4n since, but we really need to go
> over
> > > everything in detail before removing autofoo - ensure it matches up
> > > correctly and installs the same things in the same places before
> removal.
> > > windows support is another big one. do we know the state on osx?
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>>> There is not much action which would need to be taken for this:
> > >>>> * stop patching build files
> > >>>> * disable CI jobs for autotools
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think this would help to streamline build system development and
> > >>>> reduce overhead for this release.
> > >>>
> > >>> i agree on this - but the autofoo needs to still work and be up to
> > >>> date until the point where meson is equivalent - the windows work is
> > >>> one ware it needs to catch up on for sure as well as some other
> > >>> niggles. get all of these up to snuff and... yup. drop autotools.
> > >>
> > >> ok, so a concrete list of things that blocks autotools freeze and
> removal:
> > >>
> > >> 1) Windows port: ecore_win32 (gdi and ddraw engines) need to work,
> > >> maybe more to come, feedback from Vincent needed.
> > >
> > > yup.
> > >
> > >> 2) Meson minumim version requirement: Need to check if there is a
> > >> backport for Ubuntu LTS, maybe a list with meson versions on
> different
> > >> distros?
> > >
> > > there has to be a line we draw. thing of this: RH support their distro
> for
> > > 10 years. does that means we need to also rely on 10 year old build
> tools
> > > too because that is what distro does? just because distros are
> conservative
> > > doesn't necessarily mean we have to also be.
> > >
> > > now, that being said, it does present a problem. this problem will
> > > eventually go away in time, so perhaps it means no efl upgrade on those
> > > distros unless they also get a backported newer meson too. the pip
> solution
> > > also works in many cases but not so much for official packagers as they
> > > have to stick to tools provided on the distro, but packages can be
> built in
> > > a users environment where they used pip to get a newer meson, so it
> can be
> > > done. it just requires being a bit dirty.
> > >
> > >> Pretty sure there will be more, but the question is if we find out
> > >> before we drop autotools or not.
> > >>
> > >> regards
> > >> Stefan Schmidt
> > >>
> > >>
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