On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:07 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until now I >>>>> didn't say much about it. But now I like to add my 2 cents to that >>>>> topic. >>>>> >>>>> At work we develop software for embedded devices. In most cases is the >>>>> result a commercial closed-source product. >>>>> >>>>> For sure we used open source software in the past (not based on EFL >>>>> until now!). So GPL is no option. The LGPL would be an option. But >>>>> in most cases it's not an option as good as BSD (better say MIT). The >>>>> reason is that in most cases it's needed to modify the library itself. >>>>> For example if there's a Win32 and a Linux port, but no WinCE port. For >>>>> sure one could contribute the changes back to the open source project. >>>>> But in most cases this doesn't happen because of time or interest. >>>> >>>> This is exactly what companies that contribute back, like ProFUSION >>>> and others, dislike. We do contribute back and we expect that others >>>> do that, we want others to play fair. >>>> >>> >>> This is also what other companies that contribute to the EFL like. They >>> want >>> to be able to hold some stuff back while giving other stuff back to the >>> community. >> >> Yes, and in this case why don't they create another library? If they >> need to modify the library we all use, then why not give it back? >> Those that are complaining find that wrong and unfair. >> >> >>>> This might not be a problem for u as an individual developer that >>>> writes code on free time and don't care about that. But for us, we >>>> release the software expecting to improve the projects we've used, but >>>> we don't like competitors taking advantage of that and never giving >>>> back. >>>> >>> >>> Yet, this is exactly what you talk about in the next paragraph by forking >>> to >>> LGPL. You'll take all the code and never give anything back. >> >> This is a distortion, don't try to do that, it's stupid. >> >> FYI, even GPL don't consider "giving back" = "write back to original >> repository" as you seem to say. It say keep it available as others >> could use. Doing a fork and working on that fork is still giving it >> back. > > It isn't a distortion. The spirt of the GPL isn't to lock the original > authors out of the changes. It's to let everyone use the changes. Forking to > LGPL will lock the BSD contributors out of any changes to the LGPL lib. > >> >> >> And if you read what I said, original files MUST be kept as BSD, >> unless that file authors are all fine to change license (in that case >> it's much easier, just go with cvs annotate for each file and ask >> those authors, relicense individual files), that file will keep in the >> original license and thus any fixes for that file [ie: minor fixes] >> are still under BSD and you can pick it. Just the new code, >> uncopyrighable (there are lots in this kind of lib) and heavily >> modified code will be licensed under LGPL. >> > > I wasn't talking about the original files. I was talking about modifications > and additions. You lock the BSD authors out of the LGPL changes unless they > change to LGPL.
Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said it's fine and that's exactly the purpose to use BSD over LGPL. We're just being more friendly and instead of keeping it proprietary. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
