On Thursday, 14 May 2009, at 10:22:19 (+0200), Thomas Gst?dtner wrote: > If people tried to keep it simple without a service to limit them this > would be no "advantage" at all. > E.g. many blog systems support a digest, if you click on it you see > the full message (not saying blogs would be the ultimate solution to > replace twitter). > The links to the details are probably the worst thing at all: because > of that limit everyone uses those unspeakable tinyurls...
I never said it was an advantage. I just said it wasn't a big deal. > Unfortunately most people (even professionals) have to run after > every trend. Hogwash. Fads come and go, but very few products become vernacular verbs. Sites that even technophobes have heard of have that level of recognition for a reason -- they offer something unique and significant. Twitter is not just a "trend." It offers specific unique features which are valuable to businesses and users alike. Especially in tough economic times, businesses are not prone to wasting money paying people to goof off on the Internet as part of their job. Yet numerous businesses pay people to tweet and to follow others' tweets. Why? Because their is business value in being able to catch people bitching about your company and try to resolve their complaints in a way which is visible to the same audience which was privvy to the original complaint. That's not a fad; that's a revolutionary reduction in the gap separating companies and customers. > I bet most professionals who use twitter also use facebook, > myspace and at least one other "social network". So what? I use all of those sites myself. You say that as though there's something wrong with it. > This is going so far, that some of those professionals advertise for > this companies actively by making information available only for > other registered users (this beeing a problem in social networks, > not twitter (yet)). In the end it isn't of much use and the > 140-char limit might improve the communication skills of some > people, but not the information flow, so you always end up looking > for really relevant or really interesting information (having to > sort 90% 140-char messages out). Wrong again. You can say a lot in 140 characters. I know of one specific case recently where a friend of mine bitched about a particular ISP in a tweet (sent from his Nokia E-series, I might add), and within minutes he was contacted by representatives of that very ISP offering to help resolve his dissatisfaction. The simple fact is that part of Twitter's success is the 140-character limit. It gives people an excuse for both brevity and frequency. > That's not what I meant. Of course it can, and would be, official, > but imho lacks the official style of information on the own website. That doesn't make any sense. If you mean its style is informal, that's not a bad thing. Not everyone wants to feel like they are inferior. > Was talking about the user, not the author. And imho this > webinterface is terrible. You can also receive Twitter updates via SMS, RSS, web, mobile apps, ...even Facebook. Works both ways. Here's the bottom line: Different people like to get their information in different ways. I think the CIA bot is a repugnant idea, but lots of people love it. If someone is willing to disseminate information in a way that others will find useful, stop discouraging them. It doesn't hurt you, and it will probably help the community overall. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <m...@kainx.org> Linux Server/Cluster Admin, LBL.gov Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "We cannot offer you a position at this time, but you are obviously qualified. Unfortunately, the other six billion people on Earth are more qualified." -- Dogbert, from the "Dilbert" cartoons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel