On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:10 -0700 Michael Jennings <m...@kainx.org>
wrote:

> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 23:43:58 (+0200),
> Kim Woelders wrote:
> 
> > In my opinion the MWM hint is not related to EWMH, so I think all
> > that is accomplished is to fetch a potentially rather large atom
> > list which shouldn't contain the item being looked for :)
> 
> My impression based on the IRC conversation was that Eterm -x didn't
> work under e17 without this patch, and that this patch made Eterm more
> EWMH-compliant.  If that's not the case, then I misunderstood, and the
> patch needs to be rethought.
> 
> > This would just set the MWM hint and hope for the best. If the WM
> > handles it, fine (is there any WM around that doesn't?).
> 
> Some user was in IRC yesterday complaining about a WM (e17 I thought,
> but I could be mistaken) that did not provide the _MOTIF_WM_INFO atom,
> and thus Eterm kicked in override_redirect.  Not knowing about
> Ctrl-click, he assumed the Eterm was fubar.  So apparently *something*
> out there doesn't implement MWM hints properly.

Is this related to my reported problems with Eterm (and at least one
other app) where iconify and maximise don't turn up in the E17 window
menu when using borderless?

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