On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:06:34 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com" <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:42 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:17:10 -0700 Michael Jennings <m...@kainx.org> > > wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday, 06 October 2009, at 23:43:58 (+0200), > >> Kim Woelders wrote: > >> > >> > In my opinion the MWM hint is not related to EWMH, so I think all > >> > that is accomplished is to fetch a potentially rather large atom > >> > list which shouldn't contain the item being looked for :) > >> > >> My impression based on the IRC conversation was that Eterm -x > >> didn't work under e17 without this patch, and that this patch made > >> Eterm more EWMH-compliant. If that's not the case, then I > >> misunderstood, and the patch needs to be rethought. > >> > >> > This would just set the MWM hint and hope for the best. If the WM > >> > handles it, fine (is there any WM around that doesn't?). > >> > >> Some user was in IRC yesterday complaining about a WM (e17 I > >> thought, but I could be mistaken) that did not provide the > >> _MOTIF_WM_INFO atom, and thus Eterm kicked in override_redirect. > >> Not knowing about Ctrl-click, he assumed the Eterm was fubar. So > >> apparently *something* out there doesn't implement MWM hints > >> properly. > > > > Is this related to my reported problems with Eterm (and at least one > > other app) where iconify and maximise don't turn up in the E17 > > window menu when using borderless? > > yes, Eterm becomes an override-redirect window when using borderless > option with e17, so its window is not handled by the wm in any way. I > commited a workaround that makes e17 pretend to be mwm so that Eterm > use mwm hints for borderless mode instead of going override redirect. I'll keep an eye on this then, as the other app that I use a lot with this problem is something I'll be making my own changes to for other reasons anyway. Though after all this discussion, I might have to actually study this stuff and find out for myself which is the best way to go. lol I plan on recompiling E17 and Eterm from the end of freeze snapshot, so I"ll be testing out whatever the result is at that time.
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