On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:54:36 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
<lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said:

> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Dave Andreoli <d...@gurumeditation.it> wrote:
> > 2010/12/2 Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@partner.samsung.com>:
> >> On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 10:19 -0200, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mike McCormack
> >>> <mj.mccorm...@samsung.com> wrote:
> >>> > Come on guys.
> >>> >
> >>> > The only reason that you're seeing this is that I don't commit directly
> >>> > to SVN.
> >>>
> >>> No, I object because it's a huge change that might introduce bugs. The
> >>> fact is that this feature freeze is taking longer than most of us
> >>> desired.
> >>>
> >>> What we can do is settle the remaining issues (who knows them?) and
> >>> release 1.0.
> >>>
> >>> > This is a tweak on fixes that have been put in by others in the last few
> >>> > days.
> >>> > If you object to this, please read the SVN commits list and object to
> >>> > the other
> >>> > patches in the same area.
> >>>
> >>> Currently I don't have time to follow all commits, but people is
> >>> indeed committing more than should be allowed.
> >>
> >> Exactly. I have a bunch of features I can shove in that will be just
> >> fine and will probably not introduce bugs, but that's not how a feature
> >> freeze works... A freeze is a freeze and we should respect that as such.
> >>
> >> I hope we'll release soon and this freeze hell will be over.
> >
> > The freeze hell will not be over at 1.0, we will have to freeze for 1.1 and
> > so on, we must accustom ourself to real software life cycle.
> >
> 
> what software cycle? "Release early, release often"?

you still have freezes. you just spin faster. technically we release on every
commit. its all in public svn for the taking. "release early, release often"
says zero about quality, and a philosophy of doing this will result in poor
release quality if you dont freeze and fix and just march on - which is zero
difference to simply saying "we have done 55000 releases. you can pick any of
the 55000 svn revisions we have - it's a release. it's just not a tarball".

people need to stop and focus on what's important. the quality of the software,
not "mantras".

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------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com


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