On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 00:48:01 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> said:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:39:16 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 00:30:47 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> > > said: > > > > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:12:21 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > right now as best i know (please. i'd love to have other people > > > > who know this around), i'm the one with probably the most > > > > experience with audio. i spent several years as a teenager > > > > composing audio tunes via mod trackers. i have a decent > > > > understanding of what sequencing, tracking and sample > > > > manipulation are about - i am far from an expert at things like > > > > mp3/vorbis audio codec, but i do know the principles. if there is > > > > a problem in the api design (which is all in edc - and its right > > > > now a tiny partial implementation of my requirements, there is > > > > more to come) then i'd love to have people other than me know > > > > enough about audio, mixing, sequencing etc. to actually say > > > > something. speak up if u think u have audio under your belt. but > > > > as best i know, no-one has indicated they know this to > > > > date. :( so i guess as the for-no-defacto-audio-guy... > > > > > > For what it's worth I have experience in the following - > > > > > > Designing and programming pro MIDI equipment. > > > Writing MIDI sequencers. > > > Live mixing. > > > Studio mixing. > > > Live music performing. > > > Recorded music performing. > > > Being a roadie. > > > Hanging out with musicians (a professional skill I have on my > > > resume). Recreational drugs (goes with the former, not mentioned on > > > my resume). > > > > > > And I'm a trained musician. Though that training predates computer > > > music. lol > > > > > > While it's true I've not done any of that in the last decade, I do > > > have a job composing short bits of music for a game coming up soon. > > > > > > I've not looked at that commit. > > > > well damn then.. you should have been adding audio support to efl > > years ago! > > If I remember, last time I asked, you where burned with esound and > there was not gonna be any sound support. well i was burned with delegating. i did an original sounD that had sockets, mixed audio, handled sample uploads etc. then it was taken over by others to continue as esound... and then it died and never was improved (eg linear interpolation for resampling, support for detecting hardware auto-mix and multiple dsp devices, support for swizzling mixers etc.). it never moved on. i didn't want to tackle sound again in e17 - but someone else wanted to - govind and prince, at least at the edje level. yes. many parts of what is in the edje multisense code SHOULD move to ecore to some e audio lib and present some api - but i just didnt want to add that to the things to do. right now its fine lurking opaquely inside edje as HOW it works isn't exposes. > >:-P next week i'll mail my sound api in edc. what;'s there right now > > is a bare minimum so it can be built on and api can be discussed, but > > it's basically what i did in my tracker days (mods/s3m/xm/etc.) which > > were basically midi files WITH samples included in the file (and > > often other custom fun bits added). what is there now is simply > > sample storage/encoding and playback "as is" at the encoded > > samplerate and mixing of those audio outputs if needed (and > > resampling to device output rate and sending to audio device - > > modular). > > That's actually more than my current project needs. Looking forward to > the entire thing though. Especially if it can be used for spatial > sound and real time 'net sound mixing. spatial sound is a matter of assigning more speakers other than left and right. the problem here is though... there isn't as much of a standard - not proper 3d. there's 5.1 which is in a plane, but that's 6 freaking channels of sound... right now i'd be happy to handle stereo properly. what do you mean by "real time 'net sound mixing"? how is this different to mixing in general (that in edje/efl scenarios is done realtime anyway) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
