On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:20:39 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
aaah - ok. well trust me then on this. it adds very little api. (zero c, very little edc/embryo) :) > Can't, I'm on short vacations reading mail at phone during bus times. :-) > if there were short patches I could ;-) > > On Saturday, November 5, 2011, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:25:27 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > >> On Saturday, November 5, 2011, Mike Blumenkrantz <m...@zentific.com> > wrote: > >> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:12:21 +0900 > >> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:47:08 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz <m...@zentific.com > > > >> said: > >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:31:01 +0900 > >> >> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:34:31 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> >> > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I wonder if this should go in few days before the freeze. > Really, > >> let's > >> >> > > > put such a big thing in a branch and let it mature for a while, > >> merging > >> >> > > > into trunk after 1.1 is released. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > this thing has been going on for months. you just didnt see the > >> previous > >> >> > > patches i got. > >> >> > erm without favoring one way or another, if WE haven't seen anything > >> until > >> >> > just now then why would it matter how long "this thing" has been > going > >> on > >> >> > for? > >> >> > >> >> you were favored with some ecore_con rewriting just before 1.0... :) > >> > that was in order to fix a huge number of bugs, not add a giant api. > >> >> > >> >> you're going to have to trust me then. the code is pretty much dormant > >> unless > >> >> the feature is used. as such i've given it much more testing than the > >> people > >> >> who wrote it and spent basically 2 solid says worth of work making it > go > >> from > >> >> barely limping to actually working reliably. we have 2 more weeks of > bug > >> >> fixing to iron out the bugs. > >> >> > >> >> right now as best i know (please. i'd love to have other people who > know > >> this > >> >> around), i'm the one with probably the most experience with audio. i > >> spent > >> >> several years as a teenager composing audio tunes via mod trackers. i > >> have a > >> >> decent understanding of what sequencing, tracking and sample > >> manipulation are > >> >> about - i am far from an expert at things like mp3/vorbis audio codec, > >> but i > >> >> do know the principles. if there is a problem in the api design (which > >> is all > >> >> in edc - and its right now a tiny partial implementation of my > >> requirements, > >> >> there is more to come) then i'd love to have people other than me know > >> enough > >> >> about audio, mixing, sequencing etc. to actually say something. speak > up > >> if u > >> >> think u have audio under your belt. but as best i know, no-one has > >> indicated > >> >> they know this to date. :( so i guess as the > for-no-defacto-audio-guy... > >> i > >> >> say this is good as it has, api-wise, followed the spec i gave prince > & > >> >> govind - in its subset implementation. if there are bugs - they can be > >> fixed. > >> >> still have 2 more weeks of bugfixing. that's WHY there is a separate > >> merge > >> >> window vs freeze window. :) > >> > seems reasonable enough I suppose. would still be nice if giant patches > >> like > >> > this could get brought in more than a couple days before the merge > >> > window...maybe some sort of samsung policy > >> > >> Also, split patches for easier review. Okay, none of us may be as expert > in > >> audio as raster, but very small part is about it. In a way, we can act as > >> users of the API in the review, also reviewing all the other bits. But as > >> is the patch is a major dump that would be rejected by us and every other > >> projects. > >> > >> I hope raster understands our points. > > > > oh don't get nme wrong - i'm not an expert... just based on what i know > of the > > other e devs etc... i happen to know/have done more. in the field. :) > > > > seriously... did you LOOK? there is barely any api... look at > multisense.edc... > > it's also all documented... i think you need to spend the time to look at > how > > little visible api it adds. it is mostly adding internal stuff that makes > it > > possible to mix and play audio at ALL - thats most of it, as well as > encode > > audio samples into the edj file. thats really the vast majority of it > right > > now. it's a tiny bare-bones minimal subset of a much more extensive edc > api i > > specced that included envelopes, instrument definitions, looping, > sequences > > (tracks), patterns, specific channel control as well as > auto-dynamic-channel > > creation etc. etc. i can't send you the example right now - but i have a > much > > fuller spec. what u see in this patch is tiny and adds almost nothing. > take a > > closer look. > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -------------------------------------- > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
