On 12/27/11 21:26, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Christopher Michael
> <cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>> On 12/27/11 21:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Christopher Michael
>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/27/11 20:42, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Michael
>>>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net>      wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/27/11 16:45, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Enlightenment SVN
>>>>>>> <no-re...@enlightenment.org>        wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>> Ecore_Evas (Wayland_Shm):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Add an actual 'frame' to ecore_evas_wayland. (just a boring
>>>>>>>> rectangle
>>>>>>>> frame w/ the title).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Couldn't you reuse in some way what Gustavo did in the EWL backend ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you referring to the old ewl toolkit here ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> he means EWS - Evas+Ecore Windowing System.
>>>>>
>>>> Ahhh ok. Well, what exactly is ews ? and what use could it be here ?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not following wayland patches, but EWS implements a windowing
>>> system, with a window manager and all (decorations provided by
>>> elementary's wm). It's single process, so you can run all your
>>> elementary_test windows in framebuffer or playstation3.
>>>
>>> I had no need for things like "frame" windows and such, found it
>>> strange. But likely raster is reviewing your code and it does make
>>> sense, no idea on my side.
>>>
>>>
>> And I haven't been following ews patches, lol :) But I am curious now ...
>> how does ews implement a window manager&  decorations ? I haven't seen
>> anything in elementary that does decorations (or for that matter, a window
>> manager). Also not sure if 'single process' would be sufficient in a wayland
>> case :/
>
> there are no patches, code is in ecore_evas and elementary for months already.
>
> ecore_evas posts ecore_events that the manager is supposed to use and
> do whatever is required, like adding decorations.
>
> elementary's code will implement this and register to events, creating
> edje to decorate it:
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/elementary/src/lib/elu_ews_wm.c
>
Ahh I see.

> as for single process, that what was required. if one added a way to
> get windows from other process is just a matter of doing the shm. But
> I did not, as wayland was supposed to do it. :-)
>
>
>> Well, we are not making 'frame windows' (as such), just ability for
>> ecore_evas to draw it's own "frames" Around windows (read: decorations)...or
>> for elm to do it, etc.
>
> Still don't get it. What's the need to have these? Isn't just the
> window maker (elm_win) to draw its stuff and that's it? what's up with
> it at Evas level?
>

Well, what happens if someone makes an efl app that does not use elm ? 
Ecore_Evas would still need a way to draw a 'frame' around the window.

dh


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