On 12/27/11 21:42, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Christopher Michael > <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >> On 12/27/11 21:26, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Christopher Michael >>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 12/27/11 21:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Christopher Michael >>>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/27/11 20:42, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Michael >>>>>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/27/11 16:45, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Enlightenment SVN >>>>>>>>> <no-re...@enlightenment.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>>>>> Ecore_Evas (Wayland_Shm): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Add an actual 'frame' to ecore_evas_wayland. (just a boring >>>>>>>>>> rectangle >>>>>>>>>> frame w/ the title). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Couldn't you reuse in some way what Gustavo did in the EWL backend ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you referring to the old ewl toolkit here ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> he means EWS - Evas+Ecore Windowing System. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Ahhh ok. Well, what exactly is ews ? and what use could it be here ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not following wayland patches, but EWS implements a windowing >>>>> system, with a window manager and all (decorations provided by >>>>> elementary's wm). It's single process, so you can run all your >>>>> elementary_test windows in framebuffer or playstation3. >>>>> >>>>> I had no need for things like "frame" windows and such, found it >>>>> strange. But likely raster is reviewing your code and it does make >>>>> sense, no idea on my side. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> And I haven't been following ews patches, lol :) But I am curious now ... >>>> how does ews implement a window manager& decorations ? I haven't seen >>>> >>>> anything in elementary that does decorations (or for that matter, a >>>> window >>>> manager). Also not sure if 'single process' would be sufficient in a >>>> wayland >>>> case :/ >>> >>> >>> there are no patches, code is in ecore_evas and elementary for months >>> already. >>> >>> ecore_evas posts ecore_events that the manager is supposed to use and >>> do whatever is required, like adding decorations. >>> >>> elementary's code will implement this and register to events, creating >>> edje to decorate it: >>> >>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/elementary/src/lib/elu_ews_wm.c >>> >> Ahh I see. >> >> >>> as for single process, that what was required. if one added a way to >>> get windows from other process is just a matter of doing the shm. But >>> I did not, as wayland was supposed to do it. :-) >>> >>> >>>> Well, we are not making 'frame windows' (as such), just ability for >>>> ecore_evas to draw it's own "frames" Around windows (read: >>>> decorations)...or >>>> for elm to do it, etc. >>> >>> >>> Still don't get it. What's the need to have these? Isn't just the >>> window maker (elm_win) to draw its stuff and that's it? what's up with >>> it at Evas level? >>> >> >> Well, what happens if someone makes an efl app that does not use elm ? >> Ecore_Evas would still need a way to draw a 'frame' around the window. > > are you kidding or insane?
Just insane ;) What are you going to do? draw the border > using only evas commands, no themes? no nothing? Yup. It's just a basic frame (a "boring" rectangle) If you're getting > themes, you pull in edje, Right, which is why the ecore_evas frame is just a boring rectangle so we don't pull in edje there. then not in ecore-evas... a separate > library? if so, why not elm? > > that's why I put it like that, elm pulls in ecore, evas, ecore_evas > and edje, all nice to do it... plus ship with a theme :-) > Sure, and elm will have the option of doing the window decorations (frame) itself if needed/wanted. dh > IMO it's not something for ecore or evas. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
