On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:50:02 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:59:28 -0300 Lucas De Marchi > <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Lucas De Marchi > > > <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > > >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > >> <barbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler > > >>> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > >>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:40:36 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > >>>> <barbi...@gmail.com> said: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Raster, heads up here that you can use eldbus_proxy that will > > >>>>> make your life easier writing these things. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> For instance you can manage all the pending call lifetime to > > >>>>> the object and proxy, if you delete it (unref) it would do > > >>>>> for all pending methods, signal handlers, etc > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It may be new to you, but check the examples or my code to > > >>>>> upower/systemd uses it as well. > > >>>> > > >>>> i saw some of the proxy use - i wasn't sure why i needed it > > >>>> actually. i didn't use any pending handles so it turned out > > >>>> for that bit of code, it's not needed. > > >>> > > >>> if will save you replicating those helpers you did... you don't > > >>> need to do anything with the pending call.. but you can use it > > >>> to explicitly cancel one. If you delete the object (unref) it > > >>> will cancel all pending automatically. > > >>> > > >>> your code would reduce to get object, then proxy, then call > > >>> stuff like CanPowerOff, no need to create the wrappers > > >>> yourself. That's why we added the proxy, to automate these > > >>> wrappers we were doing over and over again. > > >> > > >> Easier to change the code and show him than argumenting ;-) > > > > > > currently I'm not bothering, but indeed this would help more than > > > talking. > > > > > > > > >>>> btw... i put this in e right now, BUT... i totally expect that > > >>>> ecore may get these features, so the code can be pasted in > > >>>> when we decie just how it will look like. i just wanted to do > > >>>> some work to support systemd etc. :) this was a simple/easy > > >>>> place/thing to do. :) > > >>> > > >>> some like inhibit suspend/power actions may be good, but I > > >>> don't think doing the suspend/reboot action (even if delegated) > > >>> should come in Ecore... after all there will be a single app > > >>> doing that in most cases, E itself. > > >>> > > >>> to block the suspend/power may be done by all apps, like during > > >>> a media playback or slideshow.. > > >> > > >> What's the point in adding those to ecore, wrapping the systemd > > >> functionality? > > >> > > >> Same question goes for the recently added events for sleep, > > >> hostname, etc... Why adding a wrapper instead of just let > > >> applications listen to the signals sent by systemd directly? > > > > > > 1 - because some systems don't have systemd, thus we have > > > different plugins (tizen for instance); > > > > Yet the ones that matter (should) implement that interfaces. > > one of those platforms... that efl is shipped on by default, doesnt > use systemd for this (but it should), so abstracting is a must as we > then already have 2 paths. we ALSO have upower... a bit older than > systemd and some distros wont go "systemd"... and then think bsd. > they may have their own things (i have no idea what they are), but it > gives a point for them to plug in and abstract. Then there's things like Windows and Mac OS X. Systemd might not even be an option in some places. As much as I hate it, and would prefer to just ignore it and hope it goes away, Windows counts as one of the "ones that matter". Mac also counts, but at least it's kinda, sorta, Unixy under the hood, and I can live with that. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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