On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Lucas De Marchi
<lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> 
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:51:28 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> <barbi...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:05:55 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>>> > <barbi...@gmail.com> said:
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> This reminds me. Let's git rid of this changelog and news none-sense
>>> >> >> already.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sounds like a good move... when we will have a proven record of usable
>>> >> > commit message to generate a ChangeLog and NEWS from it !
>>> >>
>>> >> it would be very beautiful to spot bad committers, not only bad messages:
>>> >>
>>> >> Raster(1234):
>>> >>    Fix stuff
>>> >
>>> > no such commit log from me (not in efl, elm or e)
>>> >
>>> >>    dbg--
>>> >
>>> > yes - and that tells you want you need to know. removing debugging.
>>> > everythng you need is there. i don't see why it needs to be more
>>> > descriptive. also no such commit log in e, efl or elm
>>> >
>>> >>    Fix break due remove dbg
>>> >
>>> > and again - told you what you need to know (and no such commit log as 
>>> > above
>>> > - i searched and found none of these).
>>> >
>>> > i wrote all my commit logs ASSUMING people digest them via the svn comits
>>> > list. that means they get the log AND the diff below. if the diff is
>>> > trivial why should i repeat in the log what the diff already says ? git 
>>> > log
>>> > -U will do the same. i always did it this way to save repeating 
>>> > information
>>> > you already have, but it seems everyone likes to not use the information
>>> > they already have.
>>>
>>> The best (or worse) part of this is that you didn't get the joke. The
>>> problem was not the commit messages, rather the commits themselves.
>>> The above should be like: "Fix stuff" only, not the following 2
>>> commits that are useless and could be avoided if you didn't push to
>>> git after every commit, instead get them tested and reviewed, being
>>> pushed in a batch afterwards when you're sure work is good.
>>
>> try reviewing the backlog of patch reviews first before suggesting every dev
>> needs to put their commits in for review first. considering the small volume 
>> of
>> patches there gets ignored for days or weeks at a time... just wait for the
>> total zero-movement efl and e will do if its done your way.
>
> I don't think he's saying for you to send your commits through
> phabricator or anything like that. The point is... you can git commit,
> then test stuff, do something more, commit again, etc, etc, etc.  And
> if it happens to be "oohh... I did a bad commit before", you can just
> squash the commit... After all that you can git push. no need to add
> new commits on top with just printf--
>
> Regarding the commit message expecting that people are digesting them
> through the mailing list... this is bad, because 1, 2 or 3 years from
> now people won't have the same context and searching through logs is
> then a nightmare.

that's it, for both paragraphs.



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