On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:08:09 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
<lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said:

> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:33:35 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
> > <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said:
> >
> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:51:28 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> >> > <barbi...@gmail.com> said:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> >> >> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:05:55 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> >> >> > <barbi...@gmail.com> said:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Tom Hacohen
> >> >> >> > <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> This reminds me. Let's git rid of this changelog and news
> >> >> >> >> none-sense already.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Sounds like a good move... when we will have a proven record of
> >> >> >> > usable commit message to generate a ChangeLog and NEWS from it !
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> it would be very beautiful to spot bad committers, not only bad
> >> >> >> messages:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Raster(1234):
> >> >> >>    Fix stuff
> >> >> >
> >> >> > no such commit log from me (not in efl, elm or e)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>    dbg--
> >> >> >
> >> >> > yes - and that tells you want you need to know. removing debugging.
> >> >> > everythng you need is there. i don't see why it needs to be more
> >> >> > descriptive. also no such commit log in e, efl or elm
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>    Fix break due remove dbg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > and again - told you what you need to know (and no such commit log as
> >> >> > above
> >> >> > - i searched and found none of these).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i wrote all my commit logs ASSUMING people digest them via the svn
> >> >> > comits list. that means they get the log AND the diff below. if the
> >> >> > diff is trivial why should i repeat in the log what the diff already
> >> >> > says ? git log -U will do the same. i always did it this way to save
> >> >> > repeating information you already have, but it seems everyone likes
> >> >> > to not use the information they already have.
> >> >>
> >> >> The best (or worse) part of this is that you didn't get the joke. The
> >> >> problem was not the commit messages, rather the commits themselves.
> >> >> The above should be like: "Fix stuff" only, not the following 2
> >> >> commits that are useless and could be avoided if you didn't push to
> >> >> git after every commit, instead get them tested and reviewed, being
> >> >> pushed in a batch afterwards when you're sure work is good.
> >> >
> >> > try reviewing the backlog of patch reviews first before suggesting every
> >> > dev needs to put their commits in for review first. considering the small
> >> > volume of patches there gets ignored for days or weeks at a time... just
> >> > wait for the total zero-movement efl and e will do if its done your way.
> >>
> >> I don't think he's saying for you to send your commits through
> >> phabricator or anything like that. The point is... you can git commit,
> >> then test stuff, do something more, commit again, etc, etc, etc.  And
> >> if it happens to be "oohh... I did a bad commit before", you can just
> >> squash the commit... After all that you can git push. no need to add
> >> new commits on top with just printf--
> >
> > "get them tested and reviewed" reads to say to get them tested and
> > reviewed.. by others. at least in english it does. :)
> 
> So in English there's no way to say "review your own commits before
> pushing?" ;-)

yes there is. "review your commits" as opposed to "get your commits reviewed".
the second is a passive construction - the meaning is to have someone (ales)
review your commits. the first is to say "go review them".

> This is one thing that's very different from svn that may take a while
> to get used to... you can commit, write a good message and wait a
> little bit before publishing that to others.

but your phab tickets wont be closed by the commit until you push. and i have
found many times that a commit doesnt always close them. i haven't figured out
why yet (the pattern). did i just not wait long enough? was it because the fix
was in a project not listed in the assciated projects? i don't know. but i push
to get the ticket closed... so i know it will auto-close by commit or i have to
manually close it before moving on.

> You can commit and then "git show" to see if everything is in place,
> there's no printf left, etc etc.
> 
> Lucas De Marchi
> 


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