On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 09:22:56 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<ras...@rasterman.com> said:

> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:08:09 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
> <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:33:35 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
> > > <lucas.demar...@profusion.mobi> said:
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:51:28 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > >> > <barbi...@gmail.com> said:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> > >> >> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:05:55 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > >> >> > <barbi...@gmail.com> said:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr>
> > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Tom Hacohen
> > >> >> >> > <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> This reminds me. Let's git rid of this changelog and news
> > >> >> >> >> none-sense already.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Sounds like a good move... when we will have a proven record of
> > >> >> >> > usable commit message to generate a ChangeLog and NEWS from it !
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> it would be very beautiful to spot bad committers, not only bad
> > >> >> >> messages:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Raster(1234):
> > >> >> >>    Fix stuff
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > no such commit log from me (not in efl, elm or e)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>    dbg--
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > yes - and that tells you want you need to know. removing debugging.
> > >> >> > everythng you need is there. i don't see why it needs to be more
> > >> >> > descriptive. also no such commit log in e, efl or elm
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>    Fix break due remove dbg
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > and again - told you what you need to know (and no such commit log
> > >> >> > as above
> > >> >> > - i searched and found none of these).
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > i wrote all my commit logs ASSUMING people digest them via the svn
> > >> >> > comits list. that means they get the log AND the diff below. if the
> > >> >> > diff is trivial why should i repeat in the log what the diff already
> > >> >> > says ? git log -U will do the same. i always did it this way to save
> > >> >> > repeating information you already have, but it seems everyone likes
> > >> >> > to not use the information they already have.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The best (or worse) part of this is that you didn't get the joke. The
> > >> >> problem was not the commit messages, rather the commits themselves.
> > >> >> The above should be like: "Fix stuff" only, not the following 2
> > >> >> commits that are useless and could be avoided if you didn't push to
> > >> >> git after every commit, instead get them tested and reviewed, being
> > >> >> pushed in a batch afterwards when you're sure work is good.
> > >> >
> > >> > try reviewing the backlog of patch reviews first before suggesting
> > >> > every dev needs to put their commits in for review first. considering
> > >> > the small volume of patches there gets ignored for days or weeks at a
> > >> > time... just wait for the total zero-movement efl and e will do if its
> > >> > done your way.
> > >>
> > >> I don't think he's saying for you to send your commits through
> > >> phabricator or anything like that. The point is... you can git commit,
> > >> then test stuff, do something more, commit again, etc, etc, etc.  And
> > >> if it happens to be "oohh... I did a bad commit before", you can just
> > >> squash the commit... After all that you can git push. no need to add
> > >> new commits on top with just printf--
> > >
> > > "get them tested and reviewed" reads to say to get them tested and
> > > reviewed.. by others. at least in english it does. :)
> > 
> > So in English there's no way to say "review your own commits before
> > pushing?" ;-)
> 
> yes there is. "review your commits" as opposed to "get your commits reviewed".
> the second is a passive construction - the meaning is to have someone (ales)
> review your commits. the first is to say "go review them".

err "someone (else)"...  :)

> > This is one thing that's very different from svn that may take a while
> > to get used to... you can commit, write a good message and wait a
> > little bit before publishing that to others.
> 
> but your phab tickets wont be closed by the commit until you push. and i have
> found many times that a commit doesnt always close them. i haven't figured out
> why yet (the pattern). did i just not wait long enough? was it because the fix
> was in a project not listed in the assciated projects? i don't know. but i
> push to get the ticket closed... so i know it will auto-close by commit or i
> have to manually close it before moving on.
> 
> > You can commit and then "git show" to see if everything is in place,
> > there's no printf left, etc etc.
> > 
> > Lucas De Marchi
> > 
> 
> 
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