On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:15:06 -0500 Derek Foreman <der...@osg.samsung.com> said:
that's interesting. so perhaps what andy saw was a networking issue specifically for him or some network path of his he goes through? often enough people complain of an issue and i can use e.org fine which has baffled me. > FWIW my monitor logged no downtime during that interval. > > Last outage I logged was Saturday morning (the usual 5:00-5:10AM CST > start time) > > my check only grabs https headers from git.enlightnement.org and > enlightenment.org - actually testing git is more complicated. So if > there was something specifically wrong with git, I'd miss it. just a git pull --rebase in a cloned dir would do the job (if it fails to connect ... problem). :) > On 2017-07-25 03:49 AM, Andrew Williams wrote: > > Maybe there is a routing issue in there too then, as I was struggling to > > get any connection at all for an hour or three? > > > > Andy > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 00:47, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:25:14 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > >> said: > >> > >>> It seems to be back now without a kick... Is there stuff going on at the > >>> moment? > >> > >> i don't know. when i saw your mail i checked. all was up... i moved on. i > >> have > >> disabled the logrotate daily crons in e5v1 and www/git ... because because > >> the > >> going down suspiciously coincided with these. i've disabled auditing in > >> libvirt > >> too... i just want to get things working and then figure out which level i > >> pulled did it. maybe one of the levers i pulled di it? e5v1, www, have > >> been up > >> over 1 whole day so not one rebooted them. 35 has now been up 2 days (last > >> time > >> there was an issue i restarted libvirt and its guests only and things > >> worked > >> again). > >> > >>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 15:30 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Today it died between 1 and 2pm UTC... > >>>> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 at 16:26, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:20:48 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>> said: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks to whoever kicked the server just now :) > >>>>> > >>>>> me :) > >>>>> > >>>>>> Are we any closer to what might be triggering this as soon as the > >>>>> weekend > >>>>>> starts? ;) > >>>>> > >>>>> no. i've experimented with disabling cron.daily things on e5... it > >> does > >>>>> seem > >>>>> that now shutting down vm's and bringing them back up works now kvm > >> is a > >>>>> module... ? hmmm. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Andy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 at 18:47 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> It looks like the new key did work after all - but in the > >> confiscation > >>>>>>> about ensuring no proxies were set up I accidentally deleted the > >> line > >>>>> of > >>>>>>> config that sets the username. > >>>>>>> Either way I can now long in, thanks. > >>>>>>> Now at least I can kick the server if/when it's not accessible > >> this > >>>>>>> weekend. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 17:14 Andrew Williams < > >> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have upgrade my key to a 4096 and using this new one I can use > >> git > >>>>> over > >>>>>>>> ssh but cannot access e5 through ssh - same as with my old key. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 13:39 Andrew Williams < > >> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It's E5 that won't let me in (no proxy of course) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler < > >>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> said: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As of Monday morning git was working well again (both https > >> and > >>>>>>>>>> git+ssh > >>>>>>>>>>> working fine). > >>>>>>>>>>> I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted the > >>>>> following: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > >>>>>>>>>>> @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ > >>>>>>>>>>> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > >>>>>>>>>>> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied > >>>>> (publickey)." > >>>>>>>>>>> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek moved to > >> 4096 > >>>>> too > >>>>>>>>>> and then > >>>>>>>>>> it worked. what machine is that? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler < > >>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> These reports were related to the weekend when access was > >>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>> difficult > >>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up now I > >> don't > >>>>>>>>>> think that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on > >>>>> Saturday and > >>>>>>>>>> Sunday. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't have any > >>>>> idea > >>>>>>>>>> why. is it > >>>>>>>>>>>> working for you now? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler < > >>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and working, > >> www > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> working. > >>>>>>>>>>>> ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works for me... i currently don't know why you are > >> having > >>>>> ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>> issues... :/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no > >>>>> peculiarity in > >>>>>>>>>>>> networking. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The physical location and method of connecting were > >> the > >>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>> as I > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using for months. The connection was unreliable at > >> best > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> got > >>>>>>>>>>>> worse as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday wore on. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some times I could reach the server and connect. Some > >>>>> times I > >>>>>>>>>> got > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other times I got no response. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC > >> were > >>>>>>>>>> agreeing that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection was unreliable at best. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler < > >>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 +0000 Andrew Williams > >> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After an hour of trying to get through to our git > >>>>> server > >>>>>>>>>> I'm now > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the night. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that there is an unknown problem > >> that > >>>>> needs > >>>>>>>>>> to be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bottom of but I don't understand why those > >> who > >>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>> able to > >>>>>>>>>>>> help > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer have access. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone in the know please communicate what > >> is > >>>>> going > >>>>>>>>>> on? I > >>>>>>>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are getting our hosting provided kindly for free > >> but > >>>>>>>>>> There are so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> many > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting solutions for open source projects I > >> don't > >>>>> get it > >>>>>>>>>> - we > >>>>>>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afraid > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but > >> GitHub, > >>>>>>>>>> despite > >>>>>>>>>>>> high > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criticism for its downtime, has been unavailable > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> barely 2 > >>>>>>>>>>>> days > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last 2 years... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in your > >> ssh > >>>>>>>>>> config. i can > >>>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't have > >>>>> issues. > >>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>>> email was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though (separate issue)... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina < > >>>>>>>>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I know is that beber adding my ssh key to > >> the > >>>>>>>>>> system and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reencrypted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the credentials store which could be the root > >>>>> cause of > >>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>>>> issues > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git over ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message -------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Jonathan Aquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net > >>> , > >>>>>>>>>> Enlightenment > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list < > >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correction, for git I'm getting either > >> connection > >>>>>>>>>> closed or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied... every 5th or so connection makes it > >>>>> through. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and web > >> are > >>>>>>>>>> working > >>>>>>>>>>>> again. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on and off > >>>>>>>>>> actually) but I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and others > >> have > >>>>> noted > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. Have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permissions on SSH been altered? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan > >> Aquilina < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that it might be worth contacting the > >>>>> hosting > >>>>>>>>>>>> provider > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering if they are doing something with > >> their > >>>>>>>>>> network > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that is causing our server to > >> really > >>>>> not be > >>>>>>>>>> happy. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring the > >>>>> server with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "smokeping" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few weeks now, and the majority of the > >> blackouts > >>>>> start > >>>>>>>>>>>> between > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5AM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish > >> UTC I > >>>>>>>>>> guess?) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I > >> don't > >>>>> know > >>>>>>>>>> if this > >>>>>>>>>>>> is an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic recovery or manual intervention). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the blackouts generally the git > >> server is > >>>>>>>>>> partially > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the web server is completely borked. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM and > >>>>> 5:10AM > >>>>>>>>>> CST. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git server is semi responsive and the web > >> server > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> hosed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if that gives any useful input > >> into > >>>>>>>>>> tracking > >>>>>>>>>>>> down > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knocking over the house of cards (or if > >> knowing > >>>>> what's > >>>>>>>>>>>> knocking > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even useful), but there ya go. :D > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Derek > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the server keeled over again. I would > >> fix > >>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>> but today > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejecting my login. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone please help, I was in the middle > >> of a > >>>>>>>>>> bunch of > >>>>>>>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docuwiki that I would like to complete? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one > >> of > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> world's > >>>>>>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! > >>>>>>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://andywilliams.me > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ajwillia.ms > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://andywilliams.me > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ajwillia.ms > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://andywilliams.me > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ajwillia.ms > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of > >> the > >>>>>>>>>> world's most > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! 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