On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 13:55:20 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> said:
> If this is sorted are the changes we discussed at edd still necessary? probably are still a very good idea as they will avoid one ugly i have had to thunk in (there is a weekly cron job to reboot e5v1 AND do the logrotate then instead of daily. the logrotate still creates trouble... but its now just rotate once a week. this is ONLY on e5v1. the rest is "as it always was". so the server goes down once a week for a few mins to reboot only 1 vm (the network router vm). technically the services and host stay up... > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 21 Aug 2017, at 13:16, Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Did wonder about that it's been AGES... > > > > Thank God for that! > > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:40:02 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > >> <ras...@rasterman.com> said: > >> > >> any complaints now? ... servers now seem stable. cron.daily + logrotate was > >> causing the issues. > >> > >>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:44:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > >>> <ras...@rasterman.com> said: > >>> > >>> FYI... it seems our machines have now been up for 4.5 days... seemingly > >> with > >>> no troubles and have not been rebooted... so something i did must have > >> had an > >>> effect... i want to leave this going for another week or 2 or 3... > >>> > >>> if you see an issue... PLEASE try and get help in confirming if it's > >> just you > >>> or everyone ASAP. it might be routing issues specifically affecting you? > >> or > >>> something else? we need to know how/why/where. is the website still > >> running? > >>> is it just ssh/git? ... etc. :) > >>> > >>> but i think things are looking much better. > >>> > >>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:47:04 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>> said: > >>>> > >>>>> Yeah I got no connection from ssh to the main node > >>>> > >>>> that smells like a very different problem... because e5 has always > >> been up > >>>> and working UNLESS someone is rebooting it at the time and e5 has been > >> up > >>>> for 3 days now straight... > >>>> > >>>> this probably need to be looked into at exactly the time when the issue > >>>> happens to compare notes. > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 12:32 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:10:32 +0000 Andrew Williams > >>>>>> <a...@andywilliams.me> said: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> No, connection refused on any attempt to any vm on ssh or > >> http(s)... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> you tried e5 itself? this is the host ... no vm there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 10:41, Carsten Haitzler < > >> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:49:27 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Maybe there is a routing issue in there too then, as I was > >>>>>> struggling to > >>>>>>>>> get any connection at all for an hour or three? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> could you get to e5? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 00:47, Carsten Haitzler > >>>>>>>>> <ras...@rasterman.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:25:14 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> It seems to be back now without a kick... Is there stuff > >> going > >>>>>> on at > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> moment? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> i don't know. when i saw your mail i checked. all was > >> up... i > >>>>>>>>>> moved > >>>>>>>> on. i > >>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>> disabled the logrotate daily crons in e5v1 and www/git ... > >>>>>>>>>> because > >>>>>>>> because > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> going down suspiciously coincided with these. i've disabled > >>>>>> auditing in > >>>>>>>>>> libvirt > >>>>>>>>>> too... i just want to get things working and then figure > >> out > >>>>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>> level i > >>>>>>>>>> pulled did it. maybe one of the levers i pulled di it? > >> e5v1, > >>>>>>>>>> www, > >>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>> been up > >>>>>>>>>> over 1 whole day so not one rebooted them. 35 has now been > >> up 2 > >>>>>> days > >>>>>>>> (last > >>>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>> there was an issue i restarted libvirt and its guests only > >> and > >>>>>> things > >>>>>>>>>> worked > >>>>>>>>>> again). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 15:30 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Today it died between 1 and 2pm UTC... > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 at 16:26, Carsten Haitzler < > >>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:20:48 +0000 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to whoever kicked the server just now :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> me :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are we any closer to what might be triggering this > >> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon > >>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts? ;) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> no. i've experimented with disabling cron.daily > >> things on > >>>>>> e5... it > >>>>>>>>>> does > >>>>>>>>>>>>> seem > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that now shutting down vm's and bringing them back up > >> works > >>>>>> now > >>>>>>>> kvm > >>>>>>>>>> is a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> module... ? hmmm. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 at 18:47 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the new key did work after all - > >> but in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> confiscation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about ensuring no proxies were set up I > >> accidentally > >>>>>> deleted > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> line > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config that sets the username. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Either way I can now long in, thanks. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now at least I can kick the server if/when it's > >> not > >>>>>> accessible > >>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 17:14 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have upgrade my key to a 4096 and using this > >> new > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one I > >>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> use > >>>>>>>>>> git > >>>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh but cannot access e5 through ssh - same as > >> with my > >>>>>> old > >>>>>>>> key. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 13:39 Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's E5 that won't let me in (no proxy of > >> course) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler < > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 +0000 Andrew > >> Williams < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As of Monday morning git was working well > >> again > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (both > >>>>>>>> https > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git+ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working fine). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still do not have ssh access back - one > >> machine > >>>>>> noted > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> following: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHANGED! > >>>>>>>> @ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING > >> SOMETHING > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NASTY! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I accept the new identity I get > >> "Permission > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (publickey)." > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 > >> (2048 > >>>>>> bits) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe > >> simotek > >>>>>> moved > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> 4096 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> too > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it worked. what machine is that? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten > >> Haitzler < > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 +0000 Andrew > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Williams > >>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These reports were related to the > >> weekend when > >>>>>>>> access was > >>>>>>>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that > >> everything is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up > >>>>>>>> now I > >>>>>>>>>> don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should invalidate the fact we had a lot > >> of > >>>>>> issues on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh/git never stopped working for me... so > >> i > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't > >>>>>>>> have any > >>>>>>>>>>>>> idea > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why. is it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working for you now? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haitzler < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 +0000 > >> Andrew > >>>>>> Williams > >>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hmm well the server isn't down... it's > >> up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> working, > >>>>>>>>>> www > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works for me... i currently don't know > >> why > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>> having > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues... :/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I have no proxy commands set up. > >> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>>>>> peculiarity in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> networking. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The physical location and method of > >>>>>> connecting > >>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using for months. The connection was > >>>>>> unreliable > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday wore on. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some times I could reach the server > >> and > >>>>>> connect. > >>>>>>>> Some > >>>>>>>>>>>>> times I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other times I got no response. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally I was not the only one. > >> Those > >>>>>> on IRC > >>>>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreeing that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection was unreliable at best. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten > >>>>>> Haitzler < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 +0000 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew > >>>>>>>> Williams > >>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After an hour of trying to get > >> through > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> our git > >>>>>>>>>>>>> server > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm now > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giving > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the night. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand that there is an > >> unknown > >>>>>> problem > >>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> needs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bottom of but I don't > >> understand > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why > >>>>>>>> those > >>>>>>>>>> who > >>>>>>>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer have access. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone in the know please > >>>>>> communicate > >>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>> going > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on? I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are getting our hosting provided > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kindly > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> free > >>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting solutions for open source > >>>>>> projects I > >>>>>>>>>> don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afraid > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the stability of "the new > >>>>>> sourceforge" but > >>>>>>>>>> GitHub, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criticism for its downtime, has > >> been > >>>>>>>> unavailable > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barely 2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last 2 years... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have a proxy thing for > >> git.e.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>> ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config. i can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.e.org no problems. all > >> weekend. i > >>>>>> didn't > >>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though (separate issue)... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaquilina < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I know is that beber > >> adding my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ssh > >>>>>> key > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reencrypted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the credentials store which > >> could be > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> root > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cause of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git over ssh > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Samsung tablet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message > >> -------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Andrew Williams < > >>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 > >> (GMT+01:00) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Jonathan Aquilina < > >>>>>>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net > >>>>>>>>>>> , > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enlightenment > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list < > >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server > >> down > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correction, for git I'm getting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either > >>>>>>>>>> connection > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closed or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied... every 5th or so > >> connection > >>>>>> makes > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> through. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, > >> Andrew > >>>>>>>> Williams < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to whoever prodded it. > >> Now > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> web > >>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use git+ssh and it is > >> working OK > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (on > >>>>>>>> and off > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually) but I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in through ssh any more. > >> Bu5hm4n > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> others > >>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>>>> noted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. Have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permissions on SSH been > >> altered? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan > >>>>>>>>>> Aquilina < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that it might be > >> worth > >>>>>>>> contacting the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering if they are doing > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that is causing our > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> really > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek > >> Foreman > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhat related, I've been > >>>>>> monitoring > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> server with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "smokeping" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few weeks now, and the > >> majority of > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> blackouts > >>>>>>>>>>>>> start > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5AM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:10AM north american > >> central time > >>>>>> (10ish > >>>>>>>>>> UTC I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess?) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes they clear in > >> under an > >>>>>> hour (I > >>>>>>>>>> don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>> know > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic recovery or manual > >>>>>>>> intervention). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the blackouts > >> generally the > >>>>>> git > >>>>>>>>>> server is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partially > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsive > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the web server is > >> completely > >>>>>> borked. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today's blackout started > >> between > >>>>>> 5:00AM > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:10AM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CST. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git server is semi > >> responsive and > >>>>>> the web > >>>>>>>>>> server > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if that gives > >> any > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful > >>>>>>>> input > >>>>>>>>>> into > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knocking over the house of > >> cards > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or > >>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>>> knowing > >>>>>>>>>>>>> what's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knocking > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even useful), but there ya > >> go. :D > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Derek > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, > >> Andrew > >>>>>> Williams > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the server keeled over > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. > >>>>>> I > >>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>> fix > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but today > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejecting my login. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone please help, I > >> was in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> middle > >>>>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docuwiki that I would like to > >>>>>> complete? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 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