On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:44:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> said:
FYI... it seems our machines have now been up for 4.5 days... seemingly with no troubles and have not been rebooted... so something i did must have had an effect... i want to leave this going for another week or 2 or 3... if you see an issue... PLEASE try and get help in confirming if it's just you or everyone ASAP. it might be routing issues specifically affecting you? or something else? we need to know how/why/where. is the website still running? is it just ssh/git? ... etc. :) but i think things are looking much better. > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:47:04 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > said: > > > Yeah I got no connection from ssh to the main node > > that smells like a very different problem... because e5 has always been up and > working UNLESS someone is rebooting it at the time and e5 has been up for 3 > days now straight... > > this probably need to be looked into at exactly the time when the issue > happens to compare notes. > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 12:32 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:10:32 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > > > said: > > > > > > > No, connection refused on any attempt to any vm on ssh or http(s)... > > > > > > you tried e5 itself? this is the host ... no vm there. > > > > > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 10:41, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:49:27 +0000 Andrew Williams < > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe there is a routing issue in there too then, as I was > > > struggling to > > > > > > get any connection at all for an hour or three? > > > > > > > > > > could you get to e5? > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 00:47, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:25:14 +0000 Andrew Williams < > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to be back now without a kick... Is there stuff going > > > on at > > > > > the > > > > > > > > moment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't know. when i saw your mail i checked. all was up... i > > > > > > > moved > > > > > on. i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > disabled the logrotate daily crons in e5v1 and www/git ... because > > > > > because > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > going down suspiciously coincided with these. i've disabled > > > auditing in > > > > > > > libvirt > > > > > > > too... i just want to get things working and then figure out which > > > > > level i > > > > > > > pulled did it. maybe one of the levers i pulled di it? e5v1, www, > > > have > > > > > > > been up > > > > > > > over 1 whole day so not one rebooted them. 35 has now been up 2 > > > days > > > > > (last > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > there was an issue i restarted libvirt and its guests only and > > > things > > > > > > > worked > > > > > > > again). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 15:30 Andrew Williams < > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today it died between 1 and 2pm UTC... > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 at 16:26, Carsten Haitzler < > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:20:48 +0000 Andrew Williams < > > > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> said: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks to whoever kicked the server just now :) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> me :) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Are we any closer to what might be triggering this as soon > > > as > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> weekend > > > > > > > > >> > starts? ;) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> no. i've experimented with disabling cron.daily things on > > > e5... it > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > >> seem > > > > > > > > >> that now shutting down vm's and bringing them back up works > > > now > > > > > kvm > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > >> module... ? hmmm. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Andy > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 at 18:47 Andrew Williams < > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > It looks like the new key did work after all - but in the > > > > > > > confiscation > > > > > > > > >> > > about ensuring no proxies were set up I accidentally > > > deleted > > > > > the > > > > > > > line > > > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > > > >> > > config that sets the username. > > > > > > > > >> > > Either way I can now long in, thanks. > > > > > > > > >> > > Now at least I can kick the server if/when it's not > > > accessible > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > >> > > weekend. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Andy > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 17:14 Andrew Williams < > > > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> I have upgrade my key to a 4096 and using this new one I > > > can > > > > > use > > > > > > > git > > > > > > > > >> over > > > > > > > > >> > >> ssh but cannot access e5 through ssh - same as with my > > > old > > > > > key. > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 13:39 Andrew Williams < > > > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> It's E5 that won't let me in (no proxy of course) > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler < > > > > > > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 +0000 Andrew Williams < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me> said: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > As of Monday morning git was working well again > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > (both > > > > > https > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> git+ssh > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > working fine). > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > I still do not have ssh access back - one machine > > > noted > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> following: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > CHANGED! > > > > > @ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > NASTY! > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > If I accept the new identity I get "Permission > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > denied > > > > > > > > >> (publickey)." > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 > > > bits) > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek > > > moved > > > > > to > > > > > > > 4096 > > > > > > > > >> too > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> and then > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> it worked. what machine is that? > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > Thanks, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler < > > > > > > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 +0000 Andrew Williams > > > < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > said: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > These reports were related to the weekend when > > > > > access was > > > > > > > > >> very > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> difficult > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > up > > > > > now I > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> think that > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of > > > issues on > > > > > > > > >> Saturday and > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> Sunday. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't > > > > > have any > > > > > > > > >> idea > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> why. is it > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > working for you now? > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 +0000 Andrew > > > Williams > > > > > < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and > > > > > working, > > > > > > > www > > > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> working. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you > > > are > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > >> ssh > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have > > > no > > > > > > > > >> peculiarity in > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > networking. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of > > > connecting > > > > > were > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> same > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> as I > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > have > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was > > > unreliable > > > > > at > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> got > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > worse as > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and > > > connect. > > > > > Some > > > > > > > > >> times I > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> got > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those > > > on IRC > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> agreeing that > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten > > > Haitzler < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 +0000 Andrew > > > > > Williams > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > to > > > > > our git > > > > > > > > >> server > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> I'm now > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > giving > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > for the night. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown > > > problem > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > >> needs > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> to be > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > gotten to > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why > > > > > those > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > >> were > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> able to > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > help > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > no > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please > > > communicate > > > > > what > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > >> going > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> on? I > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > know > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > that > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly > > > for > > > > > free > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> There are so > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > many > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source > > > projects I > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > >> get it > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> - we > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > were > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > afraid > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new > > > sourceforge" but > > > > > > > GitHub, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> despite > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > high > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been > > > > > unavailable > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> barely 2 > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > days > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > over > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > last 2 years... > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in > > > > > your > > > > > > > ssh > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> config. i can > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > get > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > to > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i > > > didn't > > > > > have > > > > > > > > >> issues. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> my > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > email was > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > down > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > though (separate issue)... > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh > > > key > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> system and > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > reencrypted > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > the credentials store which could be > > > the > > > > > root > > > > > > > > >> cause of > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> these > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > issues > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > git over ssh > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > From: Andrew Williams < > > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00) > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina < > > > > > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> Enlightenment > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > developer > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > list < > > > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either > > > > > > > connection > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> closed or > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > permission > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > denied... every 5th or so connection > > > makes > > > > > it > > > > > > > > >> through. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew > > > > > Williams < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git > > > and > > > > > web > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> working > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > again. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> (on > > > > > and off > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> actually) but I > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > can't > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and > > > > > others > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > >> noted > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> the > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > same > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > thing. Have > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> permissions on SSH been altered? > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan > > > > > > > Aquilina < > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I think that it might be worth > > > > > contacting the > > > > > > > > >> hosting > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > provider > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > as I > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> wondering if they are doing > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> something > > > > > with > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> network > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hardware or > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> something that is causing our server > > > to > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > >> not be > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> happy. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> --- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Jonathan Aquilina > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Somewhat related, I've been > > > monitoring > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> server with > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > "smokeping" > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> few weeks now, and the majority of > > > the > > > > > > > blackouts > > > > > > > > >> start > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > between > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > 5AM > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> 5:10AM north american central time > > > (10ish > > > > > > > UTC I > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> guess?) > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Sometimes they clear in under an > > > hour (I > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > >> know > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> if this > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > is an > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> automatic recovery or manual > > > > > intervention). > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> During the blackouts generally the > > > git > > > > > > > server is > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> partially > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > responsive > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> and the web server is completely > > > borked. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Today's blackout started between > > > 5:00AM > > > > > and > > > > > > > > >> 5:10AM > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> CST. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > Currently > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> git server is semi responsive and > > > the web > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> hosed. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I don't know if that gives any > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> useful > > > > > input > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> tracking > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > down > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > what's > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> knocking over the house of cards (or > > > if > > > > > > > knowing > > > > > > > > >> what's > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > knocking > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > it > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > over is > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> even useful), but there ya go. :D > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Derek > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew > > > Williams > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hi, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> That's the server keeled over again. > > > I > > > > > would > > > > > > > fix > > > > > > > > >> it > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> but today > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > it's > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> rejecting my login. > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Can someone please help, I was in > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > middle > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> bunch of > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > work > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > on > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> docuwiki that I would like to > > > complete? > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Andy > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Check out the vibrant tech community > > > on > > > > > one > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> world's > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > most > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on > > > one > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> world's most > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, > > > > > > > therefore I > > > > > > > > >> am" > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > > > > > > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> world's > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> most > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! > > > > > > > > >> http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, > > > > > therefore I > > > > > > > am" > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > -------------- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > > > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, > > > therefore I > > > > > am" > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> -------------- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > > > > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I > > > am" > > > > > > > > >> -------------- > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > >> > >>> http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >>> http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > > > > > >> > >> http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > >> http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > > > > >> > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > > > > >> > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > >> > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > -------------- > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > -- > > http://andywilliams.me > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! 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