I agree that it would certainly seem to be a cleaner look and I guess
argueably more natural to how you would work at a conventional desk and I do
kindof like the idea... - there's a but coming :)

But, I'm not convinced that removing the application's frame complete with
it's one stop shop of toolbars would necessarily be productive. All of a
sudden you'd now have to go through several mouse clicks to bring up the
menu, invariably a sub menu (even if it were contextual to the application)
and ultimately another click for the thing you want to do...

However, to try and counter this with a constructive alternative, how about
moving the application's main toolbar icons to the icon bar and make that
contextual to the application that has focus (as well as the standard
launcher icons of course).

I'm purely talking concept here, I've no idea if the hooks and links to make
this possible even exist. One day maybe I'll have the time to get a bit more
involved and learn how some of the code framework works.

Regards,
Martin.


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Thiessens
Sent: 15 March 2005 20:29
To: Enlightenment-users
Subject: [e-users] E Application framwork


Hello!

I've been experimenting with some code.. I want to build a kind of 
framework that allows me to be working more naturally with a computer.

Look at http://thies061.speed.planet.nl/libura/e/mockup/libura_Ecalc.png

You'll see their a spreadsheet. Look at it if it was just a piece of 
paper you have put on your desk. Depending on what you are currently use 
the paper for and what types of data you are working on, the e17 main 
menu should include the types of option that you need. The paper could 
as easily be a word document: 
http://thies061.speed.planet.nl/libura/e/mockup/libura_Ewriter.png
A PDF, a 3D environment a webpage or whatever.

So I need to develop a way that includes dynamic changing of the e17 
menu based on the type of paper currently and the specific types of data 
that has the focus. This way ( i think) could lead to a more elegant en 
more natural way of viewing and working with applications in computing 
environments. That is.. you roll a new piece of paper to your desktop en 
specify what it should be: a letter, a presentation, a picture, a 
message, a collection of financial records, a movie etc..

Any comments? Or suggestions? Or you think it's as stupid as hell. ;)



Have a nice day all!


Thijs Thiessens

The Netherlands


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