On 01/23/2013 06:56 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:58:17 -0200 wilson <directo...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> Hello, List
>>
>> After an upgrade in my machine, from debian 6.0 to testing (hope february
>> brings us news) and trying to compile the new version of enlightenment, I
>> have a few words to say:
>>
>> 1 - I am sure I am not using the right method to retrieve and compile the
>> source, and if someone could help me I will appreciate, but after trying the
>> git method and the easy_17 method, only easy17 gave me some results. Git
>> methos tells me that I have to download around 1 million objects and even
>> with my best efforts, download speed is not more than 30KB, so I will have to
>> wait an eternity to the process start. Is there a way to improve it?
>>
>> 2 - After easy17 running, I had to skip a lot of modules, because of
>> e_mod_main having no dbus references
>>
>> 3 - Compiled the basic, after start e17, where is the installed applications
>> in the menu? last version I installed in my debian 6, 0.16.999.71439, all the
>> references on the applications were there. What am I doing wrong?
> use our RELEASES... download the efl tarballs and e17 release tarballs. don't
> use git. don't use easy0e17. these use "svn" or whatever is in development at
> any point in time - its not released and unless you closely follow development
> and work WITH developers, it's going to be a big problem using svn -
> especially since we have been merging our source trees etc. so... either "get
> in" or "get out". by that i mean - get deep into development, tracking
> progress, helping out, and being aware of everything going on and why, OR...
> stick to our "stable releases". there is a nice about e17 page telling you how
> to build it all FROM releases.
>
> http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/e17
I'd add to be absolutely sure that apt removed EVERYTHING it installed. 
I was having a lot of problems recently and discovered that I had a few 
old e libraries left over in /usr/share/, after apt had supposedly 
uninstalled. Once that cruft was gone my git install is much, much better.

I keep a stable 1.7.5 install in /opt/e17 and my git install in 
/opt/e17-dev, and I have  ~/.e-stable and ~/.e-dev configurations. I 
like to help test work with devs with the git install, but if I have 
problems I can go back to the stable install.

>
>> 4 - Composing took me almost 60% of opengl performance. Even with an nvidia
>> board overclocked, performance with vsync turned on is more stable than with
>> it off, but it limits the framerate on 60fps, and after 3 opengl applications
>> running, it starts to degrade. Any suggestions?
> 60% of what... glxgears? also there just is no point doing > 60fps (assuming
> your refresh rate is 60hz). that's the point of vsync. to do tear-free
> rendering.
>
>> 5 - I was always a big fan of enlughtenment, since version 16, when I changed
>> windowmaker to e16, and I understand the decision of stabilish goals to
>> finish version 17, but in my opinion, it is a very steep transition, and some
>> of them may make users run away from e17
>>
>> well, it is just my 2 cents.
> there is no transition... e17 is an entirely different wm.
>


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