On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 23:26:33 -0700 Marc MERLIN <marc_...@merlins.org> said:

well the edge flip thing i think is now rare... you'll have to go back to
things like fvwm to get that other than in e. people keep encouraging me to
remove that and i've been stubborn. if it was good for fvwm to ship out of the
box in the 80's with that... it's good enough for me - e does far better and
animates the transition to show which way you moved as opposed to vwm just
doing a sudden switch-over. also shading of windows (double clikc so it
rolls up into the titlebar) seems rare-ish as well. warning. wayland world
doesn't do this... as clients are in charge, clients decide what to do. this
means for sure gtk apps doe the windows thing and want to maximize on double
click. efl does nothing right now on double-click with CSD as we don't have an
implementation client-side of shading yet. :) the others i think you can
configure on a fair range of de's and wm's or might be out of the box (alt+left
drag i think is universal these days? or close to it).

but i don't go around testing all of the wm's and de's - i only sometimes run
them in xephyr or maybe as a wayland compositor in a tty to compare/contrast
some behaviour wen there is a bug (or to see how much fatter/slower gnome shell
is vs e - in wayland mode, and it's a lot fatter and slower for sure like 2x
the time to start up, 7-8x the memory footprint (to the point where on my rpi3
mem footprint to get to gnome shell and 1 terminal was about 700m ram, and in e
it was like i think 90m or so - i seem to have lost my files on the sd card
image i had them on, but considering the entire machine has 1gb of ram... that
makes gnome essentially unusable but e is viable even though it has in broad
strokes the same functionality and also composites with fancy features etc.).

> I'm upgrading from a thinkpad P70 to a P73 (both have 4K 17" LCDs).
> 
> I figured that before I put all my environment back on top, I should try
> another WM and maybe a DM to see how things have progressed.
> 
> I'm going to skip gnome, I doubt I'll like it given how they are ok with
> change things between versions and remove options that people are using.
> 
> One thing that makes it difficult for me to use anything but E (been
> using it for over 20 years since e16), is that I'm so used to 
> - alt + middle click to resize window from nearest corner
> - alt + left click to move window without having to reach its top bar
> 
> I also use the collapse window (roll/unroll) and virtual desktops
> I can get to by moving my mouse to the left or right edge, or
> ALT+F1/F2/F3
> 
> Is there any WM at all that offers most of those features, if not all?
> 
> Thanks,
> Marc
> -- 
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