On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 15:00:16 +0100 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
> On 15/04/2020 07:26, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > I'm upgrading from a thinkpad P70 to a P73 (both have 4K 17" LCDs). > > I upgraded last year to a HP Envy 17" and unfortunately e was causing > problems. At the time I switched to cinnamon (as I'm using Mint 19.2) > because I was under serious time pressure. Now is probably a good time > for me to revisit it and document what it's not doing. > > > I figured that before I put all my environment back on top, I should try > > another WM and maybe a DM to see how things have progressed. > > Pretty much anything else is a step backwards from > > > I'm going to skip gnome, I doubt I'll like it given how they are ok with > > change things between versions and remove options that people are using. > > No WM is immune to that. > > > One thing that makes it difficult for me to use anything but E (been > > using it for over 20 years since e16), is that I'm so used [...] > > Same, for similar reasons. > > Incidentally, edge flip to traverse the desktops is sooooo useful: > Carsten, you're right to be stubborn — I cannot see why people would > want it removed, even if they're not using it themselves. > > The biggest unresolved problem in *using* e is nothing to do with e > itself AFAIK: it's the insistence of arrogant and thoughtless app > developers that they refuse to honour the font size and cursor size of > the WM *without reference to the screen size*. This means that some apps oh... don't blame appps. they have no idea what the wm is using... this is an ecosystem issue where every app and toolkit does its own thing. partly this is e's fault for not spending the code to go configure gtk and qt to match it. there will always be other exceptions that ignore this too - not much to be done. i try and be fair. criticism where due, but here it's not. if anythihng it might be e's problem for not implementing all of that. it's something to eventually get to, but i'd want to get our own house fully in order too. i plan on redoing font and colroclasses in the elm/e default theme to have a proper amount of inheritance to make it sane to recolor and change fonts because now you have ot change like 40 or 50 fonts and 30-50 colorclasses to configure colors... so want to make it possible to change maybe 5-10 colors or fonts and everything does the right thing... :) then it's a matter of mapping this config data to gtk/qt as best as we can. i have been ensuring my work on the new flat theme scales nicely. i regularly test it out. we do hav issues with 2 screens of differing dpi though where you want different scaling. e can enforce this for efl apps ... but e itself kind of suffers as it actually thinks it has a single window/canvas spanning all screens and thus this canvas has a scaling factor for all of it... > work fine and legibly on a 4K 17" screen but others are ludicrously tiny > and provide no way to enlarge the interface font, and the cursor is > about 3 pixels. The result is that many apps are quite literally > unusable unless you have a magnifying-glass. They don't even always > support (eg) cinnamon. Have a look at what I installed last week: the > authors say there is no way to fix it. > > http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/editix-on-hp-envy-17in-laptop-under-mint19.png > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
