Ed, I agree with you on the metric issue. Trust me, you are going to want to stay with the English (Imperial) system. As well as being an arborist, I have worked for the NH DOT for over twenty years in the Highway Design Bureau. Twelve years ago we switched to the metric system based on a Federal Highway mandate and immediately met with opposition from the contractors and products manufacturers alike. After fighting with them on nearly all our projects for years, we are now switching back to the Imperial system. The people that will be reviewing the ENTS data would probably benefit from a duel dimensioning list, but to the everyday lay person, they have an easier time understanding feet and inches versus meters and millimeters. That's just the way it is for now. From a scientific standpoint, I prefer the metric system. Chris
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Edward Frank Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Re: Tree Measurement Data Spreadsheet Don and Gary, Almost all of our existing data, which is the first thing that needs to be compiled into the spreadsheet is in English Units. So this spreadsheet is in English Units. Most people are measuring in feet and inches or feet and tenths. Therefore all of the data they are collecting would need to be converted into metric before they could use a metric spreadsheet. Therefore it stands to reason that the basic spreadsheet reflect the units in which the measurements are being taken. I have a separate column for inches of girth because may people are measuring girth in inches, and some of the formulas people are using, use inches so I added a girth in inches table. I am not opposed to having a metric spreadsheet for those measuring using metric measures. A set of formulas could be incorporated to convert from one standard to the other down the road when a master sheet is created. But I do not think this is the time to change all of the data forms into metric. First we need to compile our existing data into this form. and that needs to be as painless as possible. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: DON <mailto:[email protected]> BERTOLETTE To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:57 PM Subject: [ENTS] Re: Tree Measurement Data Spreadsheet Ed- Nice spread sheet...some will think it might have too many fields, but they weren't the ones constructing it! I have only two comments...heading at AF needs another "M" in COMENTS... The other comment is more of a question...are we not ready to accept the metric system? -Don _____ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [ENTS] Tree Measurement Data Spreadsheet Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:03:44 -0400 ENTS, We have been discussing for awhile creating a standard database into which all of our tree measurement data could be incorporated. The most recent discussion http://www.nativetreesociety.org/measure/database/database.htm outlined many of the categories that could be incorporated. I think this is the most important project facing ENTS as a scientific organization at the moment - the compilation and protection of the data we have collected and will collect. Toward that end I have created a spreadsheet that incorporates all of the various data fields we have discussed. Edward Frank --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
