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Dave, think you probably made a good deal. Now what if you had paid twice that, would it have been as good ? That is waht I am speaking about,buying a 11.5K aircraft for 23K. Big difference. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Douglas Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Unworthy coupes > Well, all, > > I bought my little "Frolic", a 1946 415 D, (registered as a C) in August > 2005 for $11,500. It was a "buy and fly." Had to fly her home from > Colorado to Tennessee. What the annual inspection did not find, > the-fly-to home (AKA "Shakedown cruise") did. > > I have...oh...I guess about 500 hours of experience, but all of it > awhile back. In fact that 1300 mile flite was my first solo in 23 > years. So, that cross-country was one concentrated skills review! But, > I figure $11.5K for any plane that can immediately take me 1300 miles is > a good deal. > > Wings will need recovered next year. Rear windows are cracked. She > needs a band-aid here and there. I suppose she will easily cost me a > few thousand, later, to get her more presentable. But, later, I may > have a few thousand to spend on her. > > It would have been nice to have a $40K dollar plane, but I didn't HAVE > $40K. > I had $11.5K. > > Thus, there was not much of a decision to agonize over. It was the old, > beat-up bird, or no bird at all. My guess is that many other guys are > in the same boat. So, an old Coupe is a Godsend. > > And, where else can you get a real, store-bought, factory made, > 2-seater, flying plane for that price? > > Dave Winters > (Outlaw Squadron) > 2797H > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Unworthy coupes > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following > any advice in this forum.]---- > > > Bob, I was up in Mexico, MO a couple weeks ago and flew and priced the > 601 > XL, Had the 100 HP engine , flew very well. Cruised about 135 MPH, was > very > comfortable. Very simular to the Coupe. > > Cost for the flyout completed aircraft out of GA (where they are > building > them is about 60-62K) I was looking at the kit, about 500-700 build time > with the Rotax 912S about 45K. (All Metal) > > If I can't find a reasonable Coupe, then I am going to get me something > new. > Cost will only be a few dollars more. And for those talking about the > special Coupe project, not much more time if any. > > Lee > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Unworthy coupes > > > > Lee > > > > As a mater of fact the Zenith 601XL is one of the planes I priced out > in > > detail. The mid 60's is what they were telling people at OSH in 2004. > When > > you price em out to lay your money down you are substantially low. > > > > bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Unworthy coupes > > > > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before > following > any > > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > > > > Bob don't know where you are looking, and yes some are that high, > which > I > > > agree is too much, but some are in the 50's and 60's. Rans S-6 and > the > > > S-7, > > > Pulsar, and Zeneth are all selling new in the 60's, and for a year > or > two > > > old comes down into the 40's. > > > > > > I have been looking and that is what I am finding > > > Lee > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bob Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:57 PM > > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Unworthy coupes > > > > > > > > >> I'll just point out that a new LSA is not in the realm of $60K for > any > of > > >> them. All of them in the air are over $85K (except ultalights) and > if > you > > >> price them carefully you will find they are really most in the $90K > and > > >> upwards range in the air. I priced out an Zenith 601HL kit and in > the > air > > >> equipped like my coupe was $67K. That is a kit folks! And these > numbers > > > are > > >> right now numbers, not delivered in 6 to 12 months as most of them > are > > >> because of the demand and rates of production. > > >> > > >> I agree an inspection is in order, as good as you can get. But I > have > > > bought > > >> other aircraft and I can tell you even the best inspection is not > an > > > annual. > > >> Its a look over. Demanding a new annual does not even get you > cleared > > > cause > > >> your mechanic and theirs may have differences of opinions. There > will > be > > >> work needed to be done for every new owner because no two people > have > the > > >> same ideas of maintenance and what constitutes acceptable. A plane > does > > > not > > >> have to be a ground up restoration to be in good shape. But > ercoupes > are > > > in > > >> fact simple airplanes. Yes it does cost money to bring one up into > really > > >> nice shape, but not so much that they will not return the value. I > think > > > the > > >> major thing we want to know is who much are we getting ourselves > into. > > >> I'm > > >> not sure anything less than an annual by your mechanic is going to > give > > > you > > >> an accurate number of dollars on that. These are older aircraft. > They > can > > > be > > >> and have been flown for many hundreds of hours with less than > stellar > > >> maintenance. One owner may be happy to have his essman mags rebuilt > at > > > what > > >> it costs while another will want new mags and harnesses. The plane > would > > > fly > > >> with both. But its not as clear a mater of dollars as what any > > >> prepurchase > > >> inspection would indicate. > > >> > > >> just my 10cents and less than $100K worth. > > >> > > >> bob branch > > >> 99891 > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > ======================================================================== > === > = > > > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================== > ===== > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ > > > > > ============================================================================== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/
