This is just a heads up for context that someone published a link to Mark's post in HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9738866 in case we get any more new people posting in the thread.
----- > > Features like classes and `let` are very often criticised and often languages that did not add these features and are considered 'well designed' are given in comparison (Python's lack of block scoping for instance). > thing is, ES6 brought in many things that took years to explain in the "JS way" and when finally developers started knowing and appreciating `prototypal` inheritance and started understanding the `var` behavior, to name just few, "we" started promoting ES6 as the universal problem solver for every dev so that `let` is the new `var` (most developers still don't even know what does it mean) and `const` is the better `let` and `class` finally is in the language, something that desugar anyway to prototypal inheritance, something developers still need to understand. I completely agree - I think that classes and let as ways to standardise the best practice way of something most people are already doing. This is a noble and very important thing that really helps. By letting wisdom of the masses show us what people need and letting user-land solutions spearhead progress and then specifying the parts that work is an excellent approach - having a TC in charge is really nice and ensures vision and order. The reason I'm trying to get more involved in the process is because I like the way things are heading and the discussions held (and I'm learning a lot). I don't know about additional syntax - but the fact the bar is raised is very important. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < andrea.giammar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > And I occasionally have to go and look up details. > > You know nothing Allen Wirfs-Brock (cit) > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock <al...@wirfs-brock.com> > wrote: > >> >> On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Andreas Rossberg wrote: >> >> On 18 June 2015 at 19:26, Benjamin Gruenbaum <benjami...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> This is a mailing list comprised of people who typically have a much >>> better understanding of the language and its corners than most (even >>> professional) developers have (and dare I say, are interested in or care >>> about having). With ES6 the language already got a *lot* bigger and I'd >>> argue that it's now harder to learn the whole. The tradeoffs were >>> worthwhile but it's definitely an issue. >>> >> >> I dare say that at this point Allen probably is the only person in the >> world who actually fully knows and understands the complete language. I >> won't hesitate to admit that I don't. ;) >> >> >> And I occasionally have to go and look up details. >> >> Allen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> es-discuss mailing list >> es-discuss@mozilla.org >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >> >> >
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