Hi Everyone,

I just sent a(n unedited) transcript of the discussion on SILC this evening under the title of 'No more files!' to the list, but it seems not to have arrived, so I have posted a full copy here:

http://silc.etoile-project.org/NoMoreFiles.txt

Dramatis personae:

frosty:         James Frost
ipaqah:         Isiah Beerbower
jross:          Jesse Ross
rburns:         Rob Burns
theraven:       David Chisnall
yjchen:         Yen-Ju Chen

In summary:

Conventional file managers try to solve two quite separate tasks in the same way:

1) Finding objects.
2) Arranging objects.

We propose that the second of these be solved using our existing project interface concept, where virtual desktops are arranged in a nested fashion, as a discretised version of Raskin's zoom UI. Unlike Raskin's interface, projects could easily have multiple 'parents', even recursively. Two projects, one for code and one for documentation might each contain the other one, for example.

The first is somewhat more difficult. We want an 'Object Sieve.' This will give a view of all objects and allow this view to be progressively refined based on metadata selected by the user. It will need a separate view for different object types, since there is no good way of displaying (for example) photos and music tracks in the same view. This will replace dedicated applications like iPhoto and iTunes, since you will just narrow your search to 'all music' and then have a single view containing the results. The Address Book would be accessed by sieving first for 'all people' and then sieving for a particular tag (e.g. colleagues, friends) and then possibly names containing a few (user entered) characters.

By the way, I would rather that we adopt the term 'sieving' rather than 'searching.' Searching implies that you are looking for something that is lost. Sieving (which, if you read the transcript, you will see I have problems spelling) implies stripping out the things you don't want.

David

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