So is everybody saying that a 64bit card is just as good as a 128bit? My
plans for this card are two fold. First, I want to setup a Wireless card to
so I can play with the Wireless + gps tools. Second I would use it for
general web browsing at home. Nothing that I care if anybody listens in on.
Anything sensitive would be done using either ssh or ssl.

Garl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: [eug-lug]Re: Coffee, er wifi encryption


> Hey List,
>
> I'll throw in 2 cents here. Yes, WEP does suck (i.e.
> it's easily crackable, requires manual
> keying/rekeying, etc.), though I use it at home and
> suggest it to others. Reason being is that traffic on
> home or even SOHO WLANs is typically fairly low, and
> WEP attacks depend on gathering lots of traffic and IV
> collisions. But, given time, your WEP key will be
> cracked. It's just faster if your WLAN generates a lot
> of traffic. As a note, I also use and suggest MAC
> filters for home users. I don't have any real
> assumptions of security with this setup, but any
> important data/traffic I'm working with is also
> encrypted w/ SSH, SSL, or IPSec (sometimes
> combinations).
>
> Enterprises or decent size companies have a lot of
> other options even outside of WPA (which I don't
> beleive has been finalized yet). Typically, they rely
> on hw homogeneity (i.e. use Cisco) - 802.1x, LEAP.
> These solutions use stuff like user rather than device
> authentication, per packet keying, RADIUS, etc. They
> are pretty robust, and Cisco is typically what I would
> recommend (pricy but good).
>
> WPA is essentially going to be a standardization of a
> lot of these adhoc extensions that have been made to
> WLAN/WEP, etc. security (i.e. will work with non-cisco
> gear). WPA will be a huge improvement and will likely
> have plenty of support across vendors.
>
> As mentioned, Ben's suggestions of ssh/ipsec/ssl are
> also definite options for smaller networks, and are
> good practices in general.
>
> P.S. - any note about this Thursday's meeting? There
> was a note last week about the building being closed?
> I was going to try and make it this week.
>
> Later,
> J
>
> >WEP sucks anyway, if you want "good" encryption,
> >then use a (ha, patched) version of ipsec, ssh, >lsh,
> etc...  If it takes a few more
> >minutes for someone to crack a 128-bit key than a
> >64-bit one, what's
> >the big deal, it is still in the realm of "easily
> >crackable".
> >I have heard that the latest wifi encryption
> >standard, from WPA is
> >it(?), is much better, but I'm not up on that.
> >Anyone?  Is the
> >successor to WEP really better??
> >
> >thanks,
> >
> >   Ben B
>
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