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Subject: Re: Guidance System for Icepick I, and Cryobot thoughts


In a message dated 11/1/2002 9:27:57 AM Alaskan Standard Time,
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Something has really been nagging me and I wanted to throw it out to the
group.

The assumption up to this point is that ther would be debris to navigate
around.  Why?  Unless physics has changed, ice floats.  Why would ice
pick up bolders and other various sized rocks if the entire iceflow is
sitting on an ocean? I can see small items getting carried away but
anything bigger than a pebble is gonna be hard pressed to hang around
for the upward journey.


On Europa, it's not upwelling of rocks, but asteroids and chondrites that
would fill the role of 'raisins' in the pudding.  Additionally, Europa
orbits in the path of sulphur particles emanating from Io -- I don't know
what impact sulphur mixed with water ice would have, but presumably, it
would impact its melting properties.

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Yes, the problem is mostly meteoritic debris falling onto Europa's surface
over the eons (there will be a lot of it, thanks to Jupiter's intense
gravity) and then gradually getting buried by geological processes).
Carbonaceous chondrite debris from both asteroids and comets may actually
supply Europa with a lot of the organic compounds any life forms would need,
but it will also produce an obstacle course for any Cryobot.

Another problem is indeed sulfur particles dumped from Io -- especially
since Robert Carlson thinks the dark areas on Europa are actually areas
where the sulfur deposited on Europa's surface from Io is unusually
concentrated, because the relative warmth from "diapirs" of unusually warm
ice slowly rising from underneath has caused the surface ice to sublimate
unto vapor at an unusually fast rate, leaving a concentration of sulfur
behind in that spot.  Carlson thinks that Jupiter's radiation has actually
transformed most of Europa's surface sulfur into sulfuric acid -- which
would substantially lower the melting point of Europa's ice, making it
easier for the Cryobot (to the extent that its hull is acid-resistant) --
but the elemental sulfur and sulfate salts remaining in the ice could very
quickly cake into a block of solid material ahead of the Cryobot's nose, as
has been pointed out here earlier.

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