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From: David Roden (Akron OH USA) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: lease waiting lists
> On 25 Sep 2002 at 6:21, damon henry wrote:
>
> > If the auto
> > industry wanted to create a "green market" they could, then they could
design
> > and sale many EV's.
>
> Sure they could. They have the financial resources to absorb the costs of
> making EVs sell. In fact GM claimed in the early days of the EV1 that
they
> were determined to make EVs a business -- and one might speculate that
they
> probably were, at least within the EV unit. Top management appeared to
> support that goal when Robert Stempel was chairman. Alas, once Jack Smith
> came in, whatever support there was for the EV1 began to collapse.
>
> In general the automakers are highly averse to risk, and making EVs a
viable
> business would require time. The commercial culture of the US (cutthroat
> competition for sales and the enormous immediate profits that stockholders
> demand) encourages and rewards strategies that maximize short-term profit
> rather than long-term profitability and sustainability.
>
> Risk-taking is sometimes easier for a privately held company. It's easier
> still when public funds cushion the risk -- providing that (1) there's a
> reasonable expectation that the public funds will continue until the new
> business is viable; and (2) the company actually ~wants~ to develop the
new
> business or product and not just feed at the taxpayers' teats for a while.
> The commercial culture and government design in the US doesn't do much to
> insure that both of these are true -- consider the DOE's now-dead 80 mpg
> "supercar" project as an example.
>
> I've written before that there are four elements which have to be in place
> before EVs will be accepted in a particular nation:
>
> 1. Adequate economic advantage for EVs (expensive fuel)
> 2. An activist government (incentives for manufacturers and users)
> 3. An educated, environmentally aware population (uncompromised media)
> 4. Full cooperation from vehicle producers (they really want to)
>
> In short, you have to legislate them.
>
Hi All;
And why not? Hell! It was only the Sinking of the Titanic that made
lifeboats for ALL a point with Steamship outfits, since then. Not to mention
that ALL ships "Copy the Mail" around the clock, in case of an emergency.
The Californian sat 15 miles off, and watched Titanic go down, cuz the radio
operator had closed down and gone to bed, already! Yu bet, ships all had
real double bottoms, after that, although it didn't help on the Britanic,
Titanic's sister, a few yearz later.
Look how many years it took for Auto Cos. to add failsafe brakes! What?
the 60's to see duel Master cylinders? The RR's went with that concept, oh,
about 1870, with the Westinghouse automatic air brake. If ANY part of the
brake system fails, the brakes go into "Emergency" and MUST be fixed before
yu can move the train ,again. An amazing systen, which has stood the test of
time, since trhen. Oh, yes ,today, we have Electric Assist, the regen we
know so well. But we have plenty of air, for all occasions. The dynamic as
we call it, is an extra, in keeping with the ongoing thread of late. Train
builders plan on Air doing it all, if the dynamic wants to play, that's
fine. It doesn't always, believe me on that one. It's great when it works,
can hold heavy frate trains back, going down hill, saves wear an' tear on
the brakes. Same for cars, too. but don't plan on it being there always.
> Sorry, libertarians and conservatives, but short of a shattering crisis
(and
> maybe not even then), the US lassez-faire economic model is very
> unlikely to encourage the development of EVs. For the foreseeable future,
> one-off conversion will continue to be the most practical way to obtain an
> EV for personal use.
>
That sez it! WE hafta do the R an' D on this one! Work out batteries,
motors , chargers Etc so a handy guy can put it all together. Not very many
Motorheads can BUILD their own ICE engine, from scratch but ya can BUY the
stuff ya need to build up a racing engine. Make it mild or wild, How deep
are yur pockets? This is what we are getting to here. Rich's chargers
Damon's controllers, Warp motors, battery testing, for the World, when they
need or want it.Also our expertise for the newbees. Parts houses, rite here
on line. Couldn't have dreamed of all this 30 yearz ago! Parts a mouse click
away!
IMHO
Seeya
Bob
>
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