They have not replaced any parts, that is not what salvage car sellers do. What they *do* do is to take the scrap that was supplied with the vehicle (see the pics in the first auction and on the crash site) and try to re-attach those to the car. Apparently they have been successful in getting the suspension of the wheel somehow attached to the (bent?) frame again (welding, probably) so now the car is again standing on 4 wheels, but nothing worth of a 6k increase in price.... They have been desperate enough to contact me every day about this vehicle and they confirmed that they have not done any alignment, only attaching the ripped-off wheel again.
For 6k I have had another Salvage car completely restored to pristine state by a body shop, including parts and painting. No alignment was necessary on that car, but they had to hammer out part of the frame rails to make the front straight again... Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 Tel: +1 408 383 7626 Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] on behalf of Mike Nickerson Sent: Tue 2/26/2013 10:44 AM To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List' Subject: Re: [EVDL] Salvage Tesla roadster warning - buyer beware It looks to me like some salvage company bought the car from the insurance company and has been trying to sell the carcass while also working on it part time. As they get more parts replaced, they are raising the price. I wonder if they realize the issues they may still be facing in the battery pack area. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Cor van de Water > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:33 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: [EVDL] Salvage Tesla roadster warning - buyer beware > > After Bruce's post I clicked a few of his links and found myself staring at an > Ebay posting of a Tesla Roadster, under $22k. > > Wow! did I see that right, buy it now for only 21,900 or make a bid? > The car was hit on the driver side and many body panels appear to have > some damage, but the extensive list of pictures show the car standing > straight on its 4 wheels, although it does not mention if it lot-drives but that > could be caused by the 0% charge level in the battery pack, so I considered > that this should be dealt with quickly to avoid the infamous bricking of the > battery pack (even though I would not hesitate to tear into the battery > blades to charge each with a fixed 3.7V power supply) > > Luckily, after trying to contact the seller and getting no meaningful answers > ("look at our website for more info"), I decided to check the Tesla forums > and also browse around for possible sources of Roadster parts and > experience or service manuals. Boy, was I in for a surprise! > > Only a few forum posts deep I saw a picture of a car that looked very familiar, > so I read the whole story: > http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/10048-Mike-Maloney-s- > roadster-totalled > http://goldsilver.com/article/mike-maloney-in-horrible-car-crash-with-tesla/ > > In the last part of the forum posts it has a reference to an Ebay post (that > already expired) for this car, no-selling price 14,900 probably because the pics > are the original crashed car without front wheel > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Convertible-/200883715838 > > And here a NEW Ebay auction by the same seller - suddenly the car has > regained its driver front wheel and looks in a lot better shape, with price > change to match: 21,900 - already 13 offers made... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-Telsa-Roadster/221192634351 > > The ads show the full vehicle VIN 5yjre1a34a1000963, so you can relate it > back to the original crash story and find the *real* history of the car. You can > find the last part of the Tesla VIN 963 also mentioned in the article of the > crash and forum posts. You even know the original owner... > > Buyer beware! > Notice that it has been half a year since the crash - it is likely that the car was > damaged to the point of not being able to recharge the pack, why else would > there be a picture showing it at 0%. > I would not be surprised if in a couple weeks you can buy an "almost new" > "under 12k miles" Roadster, hopefully still with a salvage title, for just under > $50k.... It may even come in a different color as just about all the body panels > except rear bumper and passenger fender and door need to be replaced. > > (Of course - if you want to rip out the drive train and put it in a different car > then this can be an opportunity....) > > Cor van de Water > Chief Scientist > Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com > Email: [email protected] Private: http://www.cvandewater.com > Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP: +31877841130 > Tel: +1 408 383 7626 Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] on behalf of Bruce EVangel Parmenter > Sent: Sat 2/23/2013 5:57 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: $weet-deal$ on pre-owned early adopter plugins > forle$$ > > Here are some used EV search URL's to explore > > Leaf > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Trucks- > /6001/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=2%7C0&Make=Nissan&Model=Leaf&_trkpa > rms=65%253A12%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A7117&_dmpt=US_Cars_Truc > ks&_sop=2&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 > > http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Nissan/model1-Leaf/location- > 94041/vcond-Used,CPO/range-12500/ > > http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for- > sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=94041&endYear=2014&modelCode1=LEAF&sor > tBy=derivedpriceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1=N > ISSAN&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&sellerTypes=b&searchRadius=0 > &mmt=[NISSAN[LEAF[]][]]&firstRecord=1&numRecords=50 > > > iMiev > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Trucks- > /6001/i.html?_dmpt=US_Cars_Trucks&_trksid=p2050890.m1603&LH_ItemCo > ndition=2|0&_mak=Mitsubishi&_mod=i-MiEV > > http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Mitsubishi/model1-i-MiEV/location- > 94041/vcond-Used,CPO/range-12500/sort-1/ > > http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for- > sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=94041&endYear=2014&modelCode1=MITI&sor > tBy=derivedpriceASC&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1= > MIT&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&sellerTypes=b&searchRadius=0& > mmt=[MIT[MITI[]][]]&firstRecord=1&numRecords=50 > > > Focus-Electric > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Trucks- > /6001/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=2%7C0&Make=Ford&Model=Focus&rt=nc& > Fuel%2520Type=Electric&_dmpt=US_Cars_Trucks&_fln=1&_ssov=1&_trksid > =p4506.c0.m282 > > http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Ford/model1-Focus/location- > 94041/fuel-Electric/vcond-Used,CPO/range-12500/ > > > Smart > http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Smart/model1-Fortwo/location- > 94041/fuel-Electric/vcond-Used,CPO/range-12500/ > > > Tesla > http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Trucks- > /6001/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=2%7C0&Make=Tesla&_trkparms=65%253A1 > 2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A7117&_dmpt=US_Cars_Trucks&_sop=2&_t > rksid=p4506.c0.m245 > > http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Tesla/location-94041/vcond- > Used,CPO/range-12500/sort-1/ > > http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for- > sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=94041&endYear=2014&sortBy=derivedpriceAS > C&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1=TESLA&listingType=u > sed&listingTypes=used&sellerTypes=b&searchRadius=0&mmt=[TESLA[][]]&f > irstRecord=1&numRecords=50 > > > {brucedp.150m.com} > > > > - > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, at 02:45 AM, EVDL Administrator wrote: > > FWIW, here are some recent Ebay sales. > > > > 2012 19,200 (has had body repair) > > 2011 SL 17,300 > > 2012 SL 21,480 > > 2011 SL 16,600 > > 2011 SL 19,500 > > 2012 SL 21,690 > > > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > > EVDL Administrator > - > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/ms-tnef > Size: 5958 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > evdl.org/attachments/20130224/c31d1824/attachment.bin> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
