Dennis Miles wrote:
Michael, Your ego is boasting,"I can design my own" but, your statements
show IMHO the fact is that you don't know "Real World Design." Perhaps you
should build your own and invest a dollar in your own design.

Yes, I would encourage him to go ahead and build his own. He'll learn a lot along the way. Sometimes the journey is more interesting than the destination! :-)

Michael: 17 x 3.6v = 61.2v nominal. Your pack could easily hit 70v peak from charging or noise. I'd include a safety factor, and design your circuit to survive 100v.

You want to power the circuit from the pack as a whole; not from a tap. If you draw current from a tap, it unbalances the pack -- exactly the situation a BMS is trying to avoid.

So to power your comparator from the pack, you need a power supply that steps 50-100vdc down to under 24v (about the most you can apply to a comparator IC like the LM393). This power supply probably won't be an IC due to the high voltage. There are a few ICs that can do it, but you won't like the price.

If it were me, I'd probably use 2 resistor, 2 zeners, and a bypass capacitor. Bad ASCII circuit (view with a fixed width font):

 +62v___________
 pack+        |
              >
         3.9k >
              >
              |_________________
              |     |           |
              |     |       __|\|8 V+
        24v  _|_/  _|_        |+ \____
      zener //_\   ___ 1uF    |  /
              |     |       __|-/4 gnd (NOT chassis ground!)
              |     |         |/|  LM393 dual comparator
              |_____|___________|
              |
              >
         3.9k >
              >
 -62v_________|_____
 pack-

This powers the comparator on about 5ma from the pack. The comparator's V+ and GND pins are your floating power supply to power your voltage comparing circuit.

The comparing circuit will basically be a "limit comparator" as shown on the LM393 data sheet. The center tap of the pack goes to +Vin in that circuit. The +Vref and -Vref voltages set your high and low limits. You'll need more resistors and a precision reference to set these voltages to something like +1v and -1v from +Vin.

If you want hysteresis, you'll need to add feedback resistors from input to output of each comparator.

It will work... but as I say, it gets to be a lot of parts!

--
If you're not stubborn, you'll give up on experiments too soon.
And if you're not flexible, you'll pound your head against the wall
and you won't see a different solution to a problem you're trying
to solve. -- Jeff Bezos
--
Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm
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