That is a weird response.   Did I not make my lack understanding, and
enjoyment of floundering around  clear?


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Dennis Miles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael, Your ego is boasting,"I can design my own" but, your statements
> show IMHO the fact is that you don't know "Real World Design." Perhaps you
> should build your own and invest a dollar in your own design. Then test it
> on your vehicle and brag about it. But, quit the argument, because Lee's
> bridge will work and your design is only in your imagination and dreams.
> Put up or shut-up!
>
> *Dennis Lee Miles *
>
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> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Michael Ross <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > My packs are 16 (or possibly 17) cells of LFP.  My highest charge voltage
> > is 60VDC, so a half pack would be OK - always below 30V.  CMOS logic and
> > handle that which is convenient.
> >
> > Should be interesting.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Michael Ross wrote:
> > >
> > >> I will probably be implementing a DC battery system for lighting and
> so
> > on
> > >> so I can get op amp power from there.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I don't know about your lighting system, but in an EV, the pack is
> > > isolated from ground. The voltages you want to measure are "floating"
> and
> > > not ground referenced. You can't power the comparators from a grounded
> > 12v
> > > system. You either needed a 12v DC/DC converter with isolated output,
> or
> > a
> > > HVDC-to-low voltage power supply to power the comparators.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Or there is already a converter to
> > >> 12V on it. I would not use TTL if I can get around it - because it is
> > >> noise vulnerable. I would likely resort to some optos if noise gets
> > >> difficult.
> > >>
> > >
> > >  From a "do this task" POV, an op amp comparator is exactly the right
> > >> function.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Technically, the function needed is a window comparator. This uses two
> > > comparators. One detects a voltage above the reference, and the other
> > > detects a voltage below the reference. But you can get two (or more)
> > > comparators inside a single chip (LM393 for example).
> > >
> > > However, IC comparators are intended for voltages under 30 volts. It
> > takes
> > > a lot of parts to use them to compare higher voltages.
> > >
> > >  If the difference between the two halves is too great then it warns.
> > >> if the difference is intermittent then the  indication stops. I think
> > >> I may like this better than a slowly increasing brightness
> > >>
> > >
> > > If you want a hard "digital" on/off indication, use the LED in an
> > > optocoupler in place of the red LED in the Batt-Bridge. Use the output
> of
> > > the optocoupler to switch some "digital" device, like logic gate or
> > relay.
> > > Or, there are optocoupler with built-in hard-switching digital outputs
> > that
> > > could directly switch something on/off.
> > >
> > > But in any case... start by precisely defining the problem you wish to
> > > solve *without* assuming a solution. Exactly what must the output do?
> > Work
> > > backwards from there.
> > >
> > > --
> > > If you're not stubborn, you'll give up on experiments too soon.
> > > And if you're not flexible, you'll pound your head against the wall
> > > and you won't see a different solution to a problem you're trying
> > > to solve. -- Jeff Bezos
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> > > Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm
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