We were hiking in England last week, and I saw a 2004 Smart Roadster.
Beautiful car.  Gets close to 50 mpg.  I thought, "when I get home, that's
going to be my next conversion."  But my dreams were dashed:  the car isn't
legal for US streets.  I even contacted some Registered Importers and the
DOT itself, but alas it's a no-go.  I saw a couple people in Europe who have
done them.  So if anyone on the list from Great Britain, Europe, Australia
or Mexico ever converts one, at least I could salivate over yours.

Bill

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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of jerry freedomev via
EV
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:03 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

Ben,

 A Ghia  EV using lithium batteries and some aero, drag reduction  can go
240 miles or so on a Leaf battery pack. Pervious ones done this way used
about 100wthrs/mile on lead batteries.

Or one of the many kitcars, at least the more aero ones. Dead ICE ones can
be had cheap and easily converted.  You are on the right path as EV's cost
what they weigh.  A much lighter aero car takes a much smaller battery pack,
motor, controller, etc for the same performance.   

Or 100 mile battery range and an 8kw range extender I'm doing one that only
weighs 45lbs gives unlimited range on gasoline, E-85, Methanol, etc using
hot-rodded racing go cart motors readily available for those fuels.   

                                 Jerry Dycus



 


On Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:27 AM, Ben Goren via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
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On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> Just one more time, Ben.  Do you really need to keep the ICE?  Especially
with an old car like that - no computer, nothing electronic what so ever,
think how easy and simple your configuration would be if electric only.

I still haven't bought the car. If I'm going to do a pure BEV conversion,
this wouldn't be the car I'd do it with; instead, I'd get a Ghia or the
like. But a pure BEV car has the range problem, which is exacerbated in my
case by the spread-out nature of the Phoenix metro area plus our summer
heat...a car with a nominal 100 mile range is going to be stressful to drive
somewhere 30 miles away on a typical day like today with a 110F forecasted
high. Going somewhere 30 miles away and deciding on the fly to make a stop
another 10 miles out of the way on the way home isn't going to happen.

The idea with the Mustang is to get something not unlike the Volt. A couple
dozen pure electric miles would cover most of my driving, and a plugin
hybrid range aggressive on the electric (presumably resulting in fuel
economy rivaling that of an econobox when in that mode) would cover
everything else except for trips -- plus it should be great for trips. And
it should wind up having all sorts of performance.

So...if this car, yes, the ICE stays; if the ICE goes, not this car.

b&
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