Yes, UL listing to sell something is not necessary. Back to inverters. Be careful buying non UL Asian inverters. A lot of them do not have a neutral to ground tie. You will find instead that the ground prong or green wire is actually tied to the center tap of the output and that NEUTRAL is 60 volts from ground and that HOT is 60 volts from ground. Some would say this is actually less deadly. I won't call it as to contradict UL is, well not sanctioned? If you know that this is what you have and properly deal with it, then fine.
Mark Grasser -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Al Lumas via EV Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:03 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality? UL (Underwriter Laboratories) is an independent agency that was founded by insurance underwriters who were losing money due to fires caused by home electrical appliances It promoted itself using scare tactic ads on TV that displayed TV sets catching fire and burning down homes. Al Lumas At 10:34 AM 10/1/2014, David Kerzel via EV wrote: >Electrical things do not have to be listed by someone like UL. Some >state and local governments may require UL (or something similar) as >part of the fire and electrical code. The reason manufactures use >approval services like UL is liability. Stores will often not sell >things that are not listed because of liability concerns. Getting >something listed shows the product was properly designed and has been >tested by a qualified group of independent engineers to verify it meets >the appropriate safety levels. >When You connect to the grid then the power company has say in anything >that can energies the power lines and they may require only listed >devices. > >David Kerzel >Modulsar EV Power LLC > >-----Original Message----- >From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Robert >Bruninga via EV >Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 7:52 AM >To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >Subject: [EVDL] Chinese inverters legality? > >You EV experimenters must have some facts here... > >Is it illegal to purchase, own or operate a non UL approved appliance? >(Which?) (How do I prove it is OK)... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141001/b8a6268f /attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
