Hello Jay,  

 

I bought my pack new that was 183 volt at 66 ampere hour which had 24 modules.  
I need to up my voltage to 225 volts and ampere hour to 

200 ah.  So I wanted to add three more modules for a 27 module battery which 
came out to 226 volts at 199.9 ah which was close enough. 

 

Use four standard battery pack of 24 modules to build three a 27 module pack.  

 

Place the battery pack on a heavy duty wood table with a smooth wood top.  Used 
C clamps to clamp the end plates before removing the 

threaded rods.  Made new thread rods by using 6 foot 5/16 inch plated steel 
rods that are four or six foot long to assemble the longer pack. 

 

Had to drill out the steel spacing plates to 3/8 inch diameter for the rods to 
go through.  Leave the rods the full length and cut them after you 

compress the modules together.   I double nut one end of the rod and this a box 
end ratchet at the other end of the end plates.  Using a electric 

drill on the double nut end to tighten and compress the modules.  Make sure you 
tighten each rod in turn, as not to curve the battery pack. 

 

To keep the battery pack from curving, I use lengths of 4 by 4 wood place on 
the top and clamp down with those long clamps that come in one 

foot to 6 feet long. 

 

My cells came pre balance which was in with 0.001 volt of each other.  Some may 
be in with 0.01 volt, but this was not a concern because 

I am going to parallel three modules together which is actual 6 cells in 
parallel.  Parallel cells are consider as one cell, therefore these cells will 

balance themselves out at the same voltage.  You could actual place a cell that 
is 1 volt to a 2 volt cell and they may become a 1.5 volt each 

or a 1.5 volt module.

 

I am using 81 modules where three modules are in parallel making three 27 cells 
groups.  Each module has two cell groups which only requires a 

54 cell BMS unit.   Using the 60 cell BMS from Orion.com    

 

So when I assemble the modules, I place a 0.001 volt difference module with a 
0.01 volt difference module.  After several cycles the voltages 

were all the same. You could also place all the modules in parallel initially 
which will all become the same voltage.  

 

I happen to have a Sony battery pack charger that is use for a camera, that is 
use for 4.2 volt Li Ion batteries.  You can get this from 

Wal Mart.  I use it only once, but it will take for ever to charge these cells 
with it. 

 

Roland  

 

  


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From: Jay Summet via EV<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> 

To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> 

Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:10 AM

Subject: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a NissanLeaf



I am now the new owner of a totaled Nissan leaf purchased at a salvage yard.

I'd like to hear any first hand accounts or links to 
tutorials/howto's/photos of anybody who has done this before.

The plan is to drop and disassemble the battery pack, and re-package the 
modules into sixteen set of 3 modules in parallel. (16S3P) This will 
replace my 20 X 6v golf cart batteries (120 volt) lead acid battery pack 
in a few months.

I am seeing advice on:
  1) How to drop the battery pack safely. I don't have a lift, but do 
have a large concrete pad. My current plan involves multiple floor jacks 
under the battery pack.  I know about the battery disconnect on the back 
passenger floor, but was wondering if there was a suggested side of the 
pack to drop first, how it disconnects, anything special to watch out 
for, etc..

2) Specialized tools needed. Any tricky bolts/screws I'll need to 
purchase special tools for?

3) Advice on pack disassembly.

4) Does anybody sell bus-bars that would be appropriate for a 3-5 cell 
parallel pack? If I make them myself, any suggestions for material type, 
size/width? The plan is to connect each "pack" of 3 cells in series 
using my existing lead acid connection cables. (basically, replacing 20 
6 volt batteries with 16 7-8 volt batteries...)

As one Leaf has 48 cells, I'm using 3 cell packs for now, but am 
considering leaving room to expand each pack into 4 or 5 cells 
later...(extra holes on one/both ends of the bus-bars that stick out a 
bit...)

5) I'm leaning strongly towards the MiniBMS boards for leaf cells, one 
per parallel pack of 3 cells, comments one way or the other?

6) I'm willing to pay $200-$300 for some type of automated battery 
charger/discharger with logging suitable for using on an individual 2S 
Nissan leaf module. (To test and possibly bin the modules). Anybody know 
of an RC type charger/tester that supports the 4.2v cells and can handle 
60+Ah discharge? (speed isn't terribly important...)

Thanks,
Jay



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