On 14 Nov 2019 at 5:50, paul dove via EV wrote: > Those are all hybrids .... you would need to compare them to a hybrid > motorcycle
No, they're not all hybrds. The Honda Civic VX (52mpg), Honda Civic CRX HF (62mpg), and Chevrolet Sprint (53mpg) are all conventional ICEVs. The Sprint even has a carburetor! There are probably dozens more totally conventional ICEVs that have gotten 44mpg and more. But they're no longer being made. Modern ICEVs are grossly overpowered, and much less efficient than they could and should be. The reason for that is that most auto buyers (1) no longer care about efficiency; (2) insist on land-yacht-style luxuries that add weight and burn up energy; (3) want vehicles big enough to haul around a literal ton of stuff; even though they're usually driven empty; and (4) have been convinced by ads that they need to be able to accelerate to 60mph in less than 10 seconds. Besides, you missed my two main points from later in the post, and might again. Maybe you should try using something with a more readable screen than an Iphone. :-) (1) Comparing cars and motorcycles isn't all that useful, because they're such different vehicles and are used so differently. (2) The mpg-equivalent of e-motorcycles vs conventional MCs is a more useful comparison, and at about 460mpg-equivalent, at least one e-motorcycle outdoes Harley's 44mpg by more than 10 to 1. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
